Saturday, August 30, 2008

The Lie of Feminism: The Woman Can Have It All: the selection of Sarah Palin and feminism

It seems John McCain (R) is getting a lot of praise for his choice in Sarah Palin as his running mate. Her pull: she didn't abort her Downs Syndrome baby and she's a woman.

I think McCain showed yet again, his liberalism in his choice, in that Palin is a feminist. She is a member of "Feminists For Life." She was leader of Fellowship of Christian Athletes chapter at her high school.

Palin just gave birth to her Down's Syndrom baby, Trig, in April 2008. This little baby is merely 16 weeks old! He needs his mommy, as do her other kids save only the oldest who is in the Army (ages: 19,17,14,7, 16 weeks).

How a woman dumps her five children, including a handicapped one, as well as her husband, to persue HER career is inconceivable.

A woman cannot work full time AND be a mother. Period.

No one would conceive of a man being both a full-time on-duty police officer AND firefighter. So why do people think a woman can hold down two full-time jobs and do well at either one? That's insane! When you consider being a mother is FAR MORE than full-time (actually its a 24/7 committment), its astounding anyone would consider shoving Mom out the door to work MORE.

A woman cannot be a proper full-time mother if she's not home. Its completely impossible. Just as she cannot be a full-time employee when she's not in the office, she can't be fulfilling her duty as a mother and wife if she's away. This should be common sense.

If anyone tells you a woman can work outside the home AND be a "great mom" they are either lying or deceived. NO ONE can do both well. One MUST redefine "great mom" or even "great employee". Because that woman IS letting someone down and someone is suffering for her choice.

Employment outside the home, particularly full-time, indeed leads to a high rate of divorce. We've seen this over the years.

It also emasculates the man and his God-given role to be the provider and protector of the family. In addition, it increases his adamic bent to be lazy.

This is nothing but feminism and is pagan at its core. Feminism is the idea that a woman can do whatever a man can do and can lead men. It has more to it than that, but that's sort of the lowest common-denominator and its cross-gender. It goes back to the Garden with Eve taking the lead and listening, then obeying the Serpent, the Devil.

Consider these other results of mom's working outside the home full-time:

Her employer now dictates her schedule, NOT the family and certainly NOT her husband. She is under the submission of another man not her husband, which directly affects her availability to her own family.

No one can serve two masters.

It affects her availablity for ministry in the local church. Guess who the church calls when Susie, who just had a baby, needs meal? The stay-at-home-mom! Why, SHE has the time...she does nothing all day, SHE can cook a meal! The burden of ministry falls in the lap of women who are already working hard at home in obedience to the Lord.

The ministry of the woman isn't finished when her children are grown up, either. Its not the time to run out and get a "real" job or finally find her purpose. Her next orders from God is to train the younger women to love their husbands and children. This assumes many women do not know HOW to love them, SHOULD love them, and need to be involved in a local church where they can have godly training. That means the older woman needs to be available.

Other things to consider:

People justify sending the mom out to work because of financial "need". I ask, define "need" specifically and biblically. In America, this is essential. Is "need" owning a home? Is it having a brand new car? Is it an HD tv?Is it private school? Is it three different sports or expensive hobbies? Is it summer camp or retreats?

Examples in real life

I personally know a family where the husband is a school teacher and his wife has stayed home the whole time to raise their two sons. They do not own a home, but rather have rented a pretty small and pretty old apartment even to this day.

The same thing is true for another family I know: the husband works for a city as a CPA, the wife stays home and home-school's the three children, and they have been renting a small, old, apartment for all this time as well.

Both families make due without getting the newest car or biggest tv. Both minister to other families in many ways, even financially. God has supplied all their needs, and then some, and they are content (even if at first it was a struggle to release the dream of owning a home someday).

Another family I know had the wife quite working in the school district to stay home and start homeschooling. This required down-sizing, so they bought a smaller house that needed much repair. The husband worked at a grocery store for years, and recently retired.

Staying at home and raising your own children CAN be done. It SHOULD be done. But it seems Christians do not want to follow the Lord's ways and trust Him, but rather do things the world's ways. Everyone suffers when that happens.

Tit 2:3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, Tit 2:4 and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, Tit 2:5 to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled.
These instructions are NOT optional. They are commands. Obey The Master, and He will reward you with peace and wisdom even though you don't deserve it. Disobey The Master, shove your wife out to work, and reap the heavy consequences of disorder, chaos, greed, worldliness, pragmatism, temptation, neglect, and little if any, ministry in the local church. Moreover, you are dishonoring HIM and maligning the Word of God when you do so.

(Proverbs 31, btw, is not a "Day in the life of a woman". Its an overall photoalbum of the ideal woman; it covers her LIFETIME, so please don't use this chapter as a defense of a career woman who can have it all (the feminist lie).)

I suggest the following articles: (Vision Forum has great help for both men and women, boys and girls, to fulfill their God-given roles, by supporting and nurturing their highly valued roles---as always proceed with caution as I don't know all their theology)


Prodigal Knot said...


I think you err sister, in comparing those who lead us secularly with those who lead us within the church. God ordains who our national leaders are, not us. The idea that we elect our leaders is true, but only to the limited extent that we, and others outside the faith, vote the way God wants them to. God is in control and God has ordained in the past that many countries, including England and Russia, should be ruled by women rather than men.

To assume our rules apply to govenrment indicates you are falling for the idea that we, as Christians, somehow have the right to prescribe rules and laws for everyone. We don't. Paul says very clearly in 1 Corinthians 5:12 that we are not judges of those without the church, but must concentrate on judging ourselves.

I think you are far too judgmental of a woman who is not claiming (that I am aware of) to be a Christian and give her too little credit for carrying to term a Downs syndrome baby. I am no fan of McCain, but I am actually very pleased and encouraged by his choice of running mate.

Denise said...


You didn't read the article then. She was in leadership over girls and guys in highschool in a ministry and indeed claims to be a Christian.

Secondly, women are NOT to be rulers over men even in politics or especially politics.

Women are not called to be leaders, but homemakers, raising their own children and helping to train the younger women to love their husbands and children.

Women who rule nations are violating God's role for women, which goes back to the Garden of Eden. HIS role for women has nothing to do with being a Christian or not.

Isa 3:12 My people--infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your paths.

1Tim. 2: 11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 1Tim2: 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner. 15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.

To use your erroneous logic, prodigal, God's standard for marriage should only be for Christians, when clearly that also is God's standard beyond any culture. See Romans 1 for instance.

HIS standard is not dismissed simply b/c one is unsaved; rather it shows their sin and need of the Savior.

There was a time when people's hearts were not so hardended to HIS ways and women were expected to stay home and raise the children and tend to the home.

That's gone, and that's a curse.

Prodigal Knot said...

All I read is that she was a leader of a group called Christian Athletes. That doesn't mean she's a believer; it just means she associated with some religious organization perhaps similar to the YMCA.

My point is, that while our society would be better off if more women stayed home and raised their children and fulfilled scriptural ministering, the fact is that most women are not believers. We can't expect that these women will have the slightest interest in doing anything "biblical".

I am not saying Mrs.Palin is a role model for women and certainly not for Christians. I'm firmly of the belief that a true disciple of Christ hasn't any business or calling to run for election to any salaried secular office. What I am saying is that she is an American woman who, while being a feminist, is certainly qualified to be McCain's running mate. I can think of many worse choices.

Jeremy said...

ummm.... Deborah?

Anonymous said...

All I know is, my mother has been quite able to work part-time and still keep her marriage to my father intact (well, more than just intact) for the past 25 years, and I plan to follow that example if (and when) I ever get married. If that's not okay with you, then that's too darned bad.

Denise said...

Having a woman rule a country is a curse according to Scripture.

Isa 3:12 My people--infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your paths.

God's dictate for women's and men's roles are the standard, not what is accepted by society or what "seemed" to work for you.

So far I haven't seen Scripture to support women dumping off their newborn babies so they can rule men.

Palin claims to be a Christian and so as a leader and as a Christian, she is held to account for violating Scripture.


I keep seeing the arguement of people be for the woman's choice to dump her kids and go do something more important (apparently being a mother isn't that important), but so far the affect on the marriage and kids doesn't seem to be an issue.

My own mother worked for a number of years when my sister and I were little. I stay home with my kids. I know both sides of the issue.

There's no such thing as a part-time mother. If a woman works full time she's not being a mother and all the family suffers.

Anonymous said...

"If a woman works full time she's not being a mother and all the family suffers."

Got any proof to support that, Denise? What about all of the families in which the mother works and the family doesn't suffer? Also, what about stay-at-home-dads?