1. Can you give us your initial reflections on the message we just heard from Rick Warren?
Burk Parsons: I saw a man with character and with simple, childlike dependence on Christ.John Piper: "An unbelievable communicator with incredible application. Be encouraged and relax with who you are, and give it all to Jesus while learning all you can from Rick."
He's certainly picking up the PDL "its all about you" lingo. It certainly isn't about Christ. I mean, why bother speaking about how in love you are with the wolf? Why sit there in a pow-wow and drool over the wolf? Why even talk about Warren?
After 8 questions and responses, they finally get to Jesus, thus proving again, its not about Jesus Christ, its about YOU. Warren got all these men to focus on man, not God, even in their discussion afterwards, at least according to the notes given; notes that presumably are the highlights or the most important issues discussed by the panel for folks to get the salient points of that discussion. Jesus bearly made into their discussion, and then I found this interesting that yet again Piper has to bring in Warren and himself (which could have been avoided if he saw the error in doing so)....someone continues to be highly defensive for a person who is convinced it was a good choice:
8. What would you say to our "non-thinkers" who are here tonight? Surely the
conference isn’t made up completely of those who consider themselves "thinkers,"
right?
Piper: There are people in here who love to think and there are others who don’t like to think. This conference is a pain in the rear end to them. They’re just here to see Warren and Piper fight. Here’s how I would say the question: What do you have to say to people who don’t want to think?
Ok, and how is this relevent to the question of thinking (what's a non-thinker?)?
What's Warren and Piper got to do with it?
And why is Piper, who is overwhelmingly generous toward Warren since at least, his announcement of Warren speaking at the conference, yet Piper attacks and presumes upon the motives of certain people?
Where's his generosity toward them? And why does he then bring in "people who don't want to think"?
Ironically, those who have publicly rebuked Piper are the ones with the "mind of Christ", thinking biblically, and its Piper who isn't at all. He's thinking according to the flesh, and still is focused on himself and his new comrade. How is his response, which ends in a question (more POMO chaotic thinking), even beneficial to the audience?
Last question in the notes:
9. Would you connect this conference theme of the life of the mind with the person of Jesus?
Very quick answers, which given the PERSON OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT, should have been the bulk of the discussion in relation to how that affects one's mind.
Its truly sad.
Puddle deep thinking after being fed pelagian poison.This, folks, is Christian Hedonism in all its YOU-Glory.
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