Wednesday, February 17, 2010

Brian McLaren, Emergents, and Jesus

Ken Silva's latest on Brian McLaren: --he just might turn away some of his Emergent fans. However, the way I see it, Evangelical mentality is to find truth in everything, so there's no need to totally jettison a false teacher. No, rather they will take the "good" from anyone and anything, ignore the bad, and consider themselves spiritual and fair and balanced, and most of all, loving and tolerant.

Scripture of course, teaches just the opposite. Matthew 7 tells us to reject false teachers. Here are some thoughts from John MacArthur's latest book, “The Jesus You Can’t Ignore” p. 206-208:

Excerpt Quotes:

1Th 5:21 “but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil.”

John7:24 “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

We are also called to be soldiers for the cause of truth. The spiritual conflict between the forces
of darkness and the truth of God is, after all, WAR.

That means, among other things, we have some fighting to do. As we have seen throughout this
book, the popular notion that conflict is always to be avoided is simply wrong. There are timeswhen we MUST be confrontive rather than collegial. Tit 1:10 For there are many who areinsubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision party. 11 Theymust be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain whatthey ought not to teach. “

If you wince at that or think there’s no way such an aggressive attitude could possibly be a sanctified response to doctrinal error in a postmodern culture, you need to review and rethink what the entire NT says about false teachers and how Christians should respond to them—especially from Jesus’ point of view.

In His final recorded messages to the church, given to the apostle John in a vision of several decades after Christ’s ascension into heaven, we see that the silencing of false teachers was still one of our Lord’s primary concerns, even from His throne in heaven. He addressed seven churches….Only two of the churches, Smyrna and Philadelphia, were commended for their faithfulness without any qualification or hint of rebuke. Both of them had remained true to Christ despite the influence of “those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan”(Rev. 2:9). All five other churches received various measures of rebuke, based on how corrupt, unfaithful, or spiritually lethargic they were.

A prominent theme in practically all Jesus’ messages to those seven churches is the issue of how they responded to false teachers and rank heretics in their midst.

It is clear from those letters to the churches in Revelation that battling heresy is a duty Christ expects every Christian to be devoted to. Whether we like it or not, our very existence in this world involves spiritual warfare—it is not a party or a picnic. If Christ Himself devoted so much of His time and energy during His earthly ministry to the task of confronting and refuting false teachers, surely that must be high on our agenda as well. His style of ministry ought to be the model for ours, and His zeal against false religion ought to fill our hearts and minds as well.

End quote.

Friday, January 29, 2010

Tim Keller Endorses Emergent Church Book



Trying to re-packing poison to make it easier for everyone to swallow:


Deep Church: A Third Way Beyond Emerging and Traditional by Richard Belcher, foreward by Richard Mouw. That is Tim Keller's name & endorsement in the upper right hand corner of the book.



Reviews at Amazon:


"Jim Belcher shows that we don't have to choose between orthodox evangelical doctrine on the one hand, and cultural engagement, creativity and commitment to social justice on the other. This is an important book." --Tim Keller, Redeemer Presbyterian Church, New York



Endorsements are chock-full of Emergents:


Tim Keller, Redeemer Presbyterian Church, New York City

Mark Oestreicher, president, Youth Specialties

Dan Kimball, author of They Like Jesus but Not the Church

Collin Hansen, editor-at-large, Christianity Today, and author of Young, Restless, Reformed: A Journalist's Journey with the New Calvinists

Makoto Fujimura, artist and author of Refractions: A Journey of Art, Faith and Humanity

Ed Stetzer, president of LifeWay Research

Rob Bell, pastor, Mars Hill Bible Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan, author, Velvet Elvis

Tony Jones, author of The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier

Mark Driscoll, pastor of Mars Hill Church, Seattle, president, Acts 29 Church Planting Network, president, Resurgence

Scot McKnight, Karl A. Olsson Professor in Religious Studies, North Park University

Richard J. Mouw, president, Fuller Theological Seminary

Dr. John H. Armstrong, president, ACT 3, and author of Your Church Is Too Small: Why Unityin Christ's Mission Is Vital to the Future of the Church

Alan Hirsch, author of The Forgotten Ways, and founder of Forge Mission Training Network and Shapevine.com

Friday, January 22, 2010

Tim Keller Spoke At Inter-Faith National Cathedral

Tim Keller spoke at the inter-faith the National Cathedral Church. How ironic, considering his speech topic.

Keller speaker at the Cathedral: On November 5, join Keller and Cathedral Dean Sam Lloyd as theyexplore the notion of “counterfeit gods,”how we have become entrapped by false notions of security and success,and where the answers are on the road ahead. This evening event includes a 30-minute book presentation by Keller,a public conversation between Kellerand Lloyd, audience questions, and a book signing.

“Counterfeit Gods,” with Tim Keller,
November 5, 7:30 pm. Tickets $13–$18
at www.nationalcathedral.org or
(877) 537-2228.

National Cathedral is INTER-FAITH:

The Cathedral is a spiritual resource for our nation: a great and beautiful edifice in the city of Washington, an indispensable ministry for people of all faiths and perspectives, and a sacred place for our country in times of celebration, crisis, and sorrow. Generous friends, members, and donors around the world support our mission.

Washington National Cathedral is a church for national purposes called to embody God’s love and to welcome people of all faiths and perspectives. A unique blend of the spiritual and the civic, this Episcopal Cathedral is a voice for generous-spirited Christianity and a catalyst for reconciliation and interfaith dialogue to promote respect and understanding. We invite all people to share in our commitment to create a more hopeful and just world.

NC has a prayer labyrinth

Thursday, January 21, 2010

When Being Others-Minded Is Considered Poor Self-Esteem

I heard a woman caller on a radio show say that she had low self-esteem and worth because for years she was giving and caring and didn't put herself first.

Selflessness is now called BAD and low self-worth!

Calling good evil and evil good.....psychology has perverted people's fallen minds and selfish hearts even more so.

Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Over Dead Baby Bodies, the GOP Won Kennedy's Seat

With the win of Scott Brown in MA not 24 hours old, the media is talking about him running for president. Unbelievable. This guy is pro-abortion, and a sordid past (posed nude for Cosmo), and won in a thoroughly Democratic state, he's not a true Republican, any more than Schwarzeneggar is or Mitt Romney. The easy acceptance of a purportedly huge lose by the Dems tells me something's up.

I don't count this as a win on any level, because the GREAT issue is abortion and Obamacare will pass anyway.

Haiti's Self-Inflicted Poverty: a symptom of its spiritual death

A symptom of Haiti's biggest problem: spiritual death:

Excerpts from Haiti's avoidable death toll by Dr. Walter Williams

As tragic as the Haitian calamity is, it is merely symptomatic of a far deeper tragedy that's completely ignored, namely self-inflicted poverty.

The biggest reason for Haiti being one of the world's poorest countries is its restrictions on economic liberty.

Corruption is rampant. Haiti ranks 177th out of 179 countries in the 2007 Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index. Its reputation as one of the world's most corrupt countries is a major impediment to doing business. Customs officers often demand bribes to clear shipments. The Heritage Foundation's Index of Economic Freedom says that because of burdensome regulations and bribery, starting a business in Haiti takes an average of 195 days, compared with the world average of 38 days. Getting a business license takes about five times longer than the world average of 234 days – that's over three years.

Crime and lawlessness are rampant in Haiti. The U.S. Department of State website, long before the earthquake, warned, "There are no 'safe' areas in Haiti. ... Kidnapping, death threats, murders, drug-related shootouts, armed robberies, home break-ins and car-jacking are common in Haiti." The Australian Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade warns its citizens that, "The level of crime in Haiti is very high, and the police have little ability to enforce laws. Local authorities often have limited or no capacity to provide assistance, even if you are a victim of a serious crime." Crime anywhere is a prohibitive tax on economic development, and the poorest people are its primary victims.

Private-property rights are vital to economic growth. The Index of Economic Freedom reports that "Haitian protection of investors and property is severely compromised by weak enforcement, a paucity of updated laws to handle modern commercial practices, and a dysfunctional and resource-poor legal system." That means commercial disputes are settled out of court often through the bribery of public officials; settlements are purchased.

The way out of Haiti's grinding poverty is not rocket science. Ranking countries according to: 1) whether they are more or less free-market, 2) per capita income, and 3) ranking in International Amnesty's human-rights protection index, we would find that those nations with a larger free-market sector tend also to be those with the higher income and greater human-rights protections. Haitian President Rene Preval is not enthusiastic about free markets; his heroes are none other than the hemisphere's two brutal communist tyrants: Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and Cuba's Fidel Castro.

Haiti's disaster demands immediate Western assistance, but it's only the Haitian people who can relieve themselves of the deeper tragedy of self-inflicted poverty.

For the full article go here.

I Won't Join The Scott Brown Celebration *Update*

Given that Scott Brown is pro-abortion and has a tainted past posing for Cosmo in the 80's, why are the Republicans celebrating his victory in MA last night? I saw an ad for him on WND "the change beings 10-19-10", to which I ask, WHAT change?

A Republican who wins in a thoroughly deep-seeded Democratic state is NOT a true Republican. It means he's a RINO. Brown is one of those.

So I won't join the celebration. Its more of the same junk. Principles are worth more than a few bucks back in my pocket.

***UPDATE***

Politico reports: quote:

Eight Republicans bucked their party in backing the repeal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell" policy, potentially risking a backlash from the conservative base while giving the historic vote a stronger bipartisan finish than many expected.

The Republican senators who voted yes on the repeal with the Democrats were Richard Burr of North Carolina, Mark Kirk of Illinois, John Ensign of Nevada, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, George Voinovich of Ohio, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins, both of Maine...


Two of the Republicans — Brown and Snowe — are up for reelection in 2012.

“The vote speaks for itself,” Brown told POLITICO, before an aide added that he had explained his position in prior published statements.

End quote.

Folks that's why I said what I said a year ago. Brown wasn't a true Republican nor Conservative. No true Conservative/Republican wins in a liberal state. Why did you Repubs in MA vote for him?

Friday, January 15, 2010

The Truth Hurts: dividing from Christians to keep Democrats happy

Originally I wrote this as a response to a purported Christian Republican aquaintance who didn't like my forthrightness in stating the fact that there's no "hope" for California unless we get rid of the liars and liberals. She didn't want my comment to offend her Democrat friends, so she removed it. Sticking her head in the sand, she didn't want to deal with the conflict and reality of the problems, both politically, and more importantly, spiritually. She rather just stay positive and "happy" (as defined to her by a recent PBC show on that topic).

Quote:

Schwarzeneggar, whom you brought up, really is a liar. I wasn't just spouting off the cuff. I have the facts. For instance, he lied about being against raising taxes (his main emphasis when campaigning), then he raised taxes; he fought hard to pass measures 1A-1F(tax increases); then nominated a pro-tax candidate for the state AG, and had the gall to turned around and proclaim he's for cutting taxes. State assemblyman Anthony Adams did the same thing as a Republican too. Schwarzeneggar is also for homosexual rights. The leaders of our state are absolute liberals and they ARE the problem with pushing homosexuality in the schools, restricting discussion of Jesus Christ, restricting speech that favors heterosexual marriage, etc. How is any of this positive? How does any of this reflect biblical principles, much less conservative ones?

One's political views reflects one's spiritual condition because one is based on the other.

The truth is that the Democrats are also ruining this country (pro-abortion, pro-socialism, pro-homosexuality; not to mention anti-Constitution). This is in direct violation of God's standard. It is a good thing Sen. Dodd is stepping down; he's a leader of this anti-biblical, immoral junk; besides which, he rebuked the freshmen Senators for being brash, but didn't rebuke his own party leaders like Pelosi for doing the same thing. Its interesting how Republicans across the board are so afraid of offending the Democrats that they go silent, but the Democrats don't have that worry; they don't care who they offend.


I don't know about you , but my hope isn't in how good things might be today or tomorrow. Its not based on people and getting along with everyone. My hope and joy (note: its not "happiness"--which is based on circumstances and is fleeting) has to be in Christ Jesus alone, regardless of what is going on around me. That means if I am loyal to Christ and Him alone, it will cause division. Truth always does. The Sword is doubled-edged. Dealing with falsehood and error might seem negative to some, but its actually demonstrating the love for Christ Jesus, His Word, and people. We are commanded as Christians to deal with it :

Eph 5:11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead EXPOSE THEM. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret.

Gal 1: 10 For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Consider carefully the words of Christ Jesus:

Mat 10:32 So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, 33 but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven. 34 "DO NOT THINK that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I HAVE NOT COME TO BRING PEACE, BUT A SWORD. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. 36 And a person's enemies will be those of his own household. 37 Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And WHOEVER DOES NOT TAKE UP HIS CROSS and FOLLOW ME IS NOT WORTHY OF ME. 39 Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. [emphasis & caps, mine]

The reality is that there's a lot of evil going on in this world, and as Christians, we are called to not ignore and have some superficial happiness, but rather confront it head-on as God gives opportunity, with of course, right motives and means (Acts 28:19;Eph. 6).
God will not bless this country when people are WILLINGLY IGNORANT OR SILENT on such foundational issues as abortion, homosexuality, etc. Those who truly love Christ and Scripture cannot afford to be silent because that is compromise. Its also a lack of loving the souls of others and of Christ Jesus and His Word. This isn't so much about politics as it is about professing Christians standing up for Truth no matter the cost. Trying to influence liberal friends doesn't work; usually is the liberals who end up influencing the "conservatives" to lower the standard and thus compromising for the sake of friendship. What kind of friendship does that?

Jer 6:14 They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, 'Peace, peace,' WHEN THERE IS NO PEACE.

Appeasing the liberals isn't peace nor is sticking one's head in the sand peace. Neither does it bring much happiness. Reality always rears its head.

Please don't misunderstand me: I don't believe politics is the answer for society's sins. In fact Scripture says: Jeremiah 17:5, “Thus says the Lord, ‘Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength and whose heart turns away from the Lord.’” However, as long as Christians are a part of the government ("of the people, by the people...") we are in a unique position to stand for righteousness. This means we divide from compromise, too, because our loyalty is for Jesus Christ, not party affiliation or what have you.

God is grieved over what is happening in this country and it should grieve those who claim the name of Christ.

End quote.

If we're ever to fight for our state and our nation, if we're ever to fight for biblical Truth, then we are obligated to delve into the fray and wrestle with those who oppose the Truth...not just let it go at the first sign of opposition or heat. Tenacity is a lost character with most people today and its sad, because folks, we're in a battle not just for our country politically, but most importantly spiritually. How in the world are we to influence others if we stay silent when they don't feel like hearing us?

Thursday, January 14, 2010

Rich Buddist Tiger Woods and Poor Voodoo Romanist Haitians Have The Same Spiritual Condition: so where's the call of repentance to them?

Poor Voodoo Romanist Haitians are in the same spiritual condition as Buddist Tiger Woods. So where's the call to repentance for them? Now, of all times, is THE opportunity to proclaim the only way of salvation.

Or do we merely care suddenly, for the Haitians because of an earthquake? Temporal over eternal cares?

Do you realize how many souls just went to Hell? And how many of those were told they were working their way to Heaven?

Its so easy to point to someone immoral and rich like Tiger Woods. But the Haitians are just as immoral and spiritually dead, without hope, entrenched in demonic religions.

Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Former El-Al Head of Security Gives Insight for American Airport Security

El-Al is the Israeli airline--no attack in 40 years. They might have some wisdom we should impliment.

El-Al head of security talks about airline security here in America:

Quote:

Isaac Yeffet, the former head of security for El Al and now an aviation security consultant in New York, said El Al has prevented terrorism in the air by making sure every passenger is interviewed by a well-trained agent before check-in.

"Stop relying only on technology," Yeffet told CNN. "Technology can help the qualified, well-trained human being but cannot replace him."

Yeffet spoke to CNN Friday.

CNN: What needs to be done to improve the system?

Yeffet: It's mandatory that every passenger -- I don't care his religion or whatever he is -- every passenger has to be interviewed by security people who are qualified and well-trained, and are being tested all year long. I trained my guys and educated them, that every flight, for them, is the first flight. That every passenger is the first passenger. The fact that you had [safe flights] yesterday and last month means nothing. We are looking for the one who is coming to blow up our aircraft. If you do not look at each passenger, something is wrong with your system.

CNN: What is El Al's approach to airline security? How does it differ from what's being done in this country?

Yeffett: We must look at the qualifications of the candidate for security jobs. He must be educated. He must speak two languages. He must be trained for a long time, in classrooms. He must receive on-the-job training with a supervisor for weeks to make sure that the guy understands how to approach a passenger, how to convince him to cooperate with him, because the passenger is taking the flight and we are on the ground. The passengers have to understand that the security is doing it for their benefit.

We are constantly in touch with the Israeli intelligence to find out if there are any suspicious passengers among hundreds of passengers coming to take the flight -- by getting the list of passengers for each flight and comparing it with the suspicious list that we have. If one of the passengers is on the list, then we are waiting for him, he will not surprise us.

During the year, we did thousands of tests of our security guys around the world. It cost money, but once you save lives, it's worth all the money that the government gave us to have the right security system.

I used to send a male or female that we trusted. We used to give them tickets and send them to an airport to take a flight to Tel Aviv. We concealed whatever we could in their luggage. Everything was fake, and we wanted to find out if the security people would stop this passenger or not.
If there was any failure, the security people immediately were fired, and we called in all the security people to tell people why they failed, what happened step by step. I wanted everyone to learn from any failure. And if they were very successful, I wanted everyone to know why.

CNN: What do you think of using full body scanners?

Yeffet: I am against it, this is once again patch on top of patch. Look what happened, Richard Reid, the shoebomber, hid the explosives in his shoes. The result -- all of us have to take off our shoes when we come to the airport. The Nigerian guy hid his explosives in his underwear. The result -- everyone now will be seen naked. Is this the security system that we want?

We have millions of Muslims in this country. I am not Muslim, but I am very familiar with the tradition, I respect the tradition. Women who walk on the street cover their body from head to toe. Can you imagine the reaction of the husband? Excuse me, wait on the side, we want to see your wife's body naked?... This is not an answer.

End quote.

Educated and highly trained security at airports? That's unheard of! You think Muslims will willingly abide by the use of body scanners? Or will THEY get to opt out for "religious" reasons...when Islam IS the problem?


Contrast that to our failed security"system" in today's headlines: "The Centers for Disease Control said a passenger with tuberculosis has been detained after boarding a flight from Philadelphia to San Francisco despite being on a "do-not-board" list."

Monday, January 11, 2010

Out-Blacking the Blacks

Race is now determined by what you do and where you live, and how you behavior, not what nationality or skin color you are. I never thought I'd see the day. And now white people are trying to "out black" black people.

Blagojevich called himself "blacker than Obama" recently:

"In the interview, Blagojevich says: "I'm blacker than Barack Obama. I shined shoes. I grew up in a five-room apartment. My father had a little Laundromat in a black community not far from where he lived. I saw it all growing up."


Toni Morrison called Bill Clinton the first black president:

"Remember the writer Toni Morrison’s remark that one Bill Clinton was America’s “first black president”? In 1998, she eulogised: “Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children’s lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald’s-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas.”"

Do these people think they are fulfilling Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream, when he said,"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character"?

Then again, the Black community often hurls racist remarks toward other Black people who don't fall in line with the mindset of the "leaders", calling them "sell-outs" and "Uncle Toms", etc.

I find this disgraceful and frankly very racist and insulting. What is wrong with people?

Sunday, January 10, 2010

Confidence In Proclaiming Christ Crucified

When we preach Christ crucified, we have no reason to stammer, or stutter, or hesitate, or apologize; there is nothing in the gospel of which we have any cause to be ashamed.
- C.H. Spurgeon

Saturday, January 09, 2010

Joel Osteen Knows Not the Truth Nor Proclaims It

In light of Joel Osteen's praise and endorsement of lesbian feminist Mayor Parker of Houston, TX, I'd like to refresh your memory of Osteen's ineptness at knowing Truth, but teaching a false gospel.

Excerpts from CNN's transcript of Osteen's interview:

KING: But you're not fire and brimstone, right? You're not pound the decks and hell and damnation?

OSTEEN: No. That's not me. It's never been me. I've always been an encourager at heart. And when I took over from my father he came from the Southern Baptist background and back 40, 50 years ago there was a lot more of that. But, you know, I just -- I don't believe in that. I don't believe -- maybe it was for a time. But I don't have it in my heart to condemn people. I'm there to encourage them. I see myself more as a coach, as a motivator to help them experience the life God has for us.

KING: But don't you think if people don't believe as you believe, they're somehow condemned?

OSTEEN: You know, I think that happens in our society. But I try not to do that. I tell people all the time, preached a couple Sundays about it. I'm for everybody. You may not agree with me, but to me it's not my job to try to straighten everybody out. The Gospel called the good news. My message is a message of hope, that's God's for you. You can live a good life no matter what's happened to you. And so I don't know. I know there is condemnation but I don't feel that's my place.

KING: You've been criticized for that, haven't you?

OSTEEN: I have. I have. Because I don't know.

OSTEEN: Yeah. I don't know. I think coming from the Christian base, and I think the fact that I don't know, it's a book of encouragement and inspiration. And to me it seems like there's so much pulling us down in our society today. There's so much negative. Most of my book is about how you can live a good life today in spite of all that. So I think that had a big part of it.

KING: But it doesn't quote a lot of biblical passages until the back of the book, right?

OSTEEN: It doesn't do a whole lot of it. My message, I wanted to reach the mainstream. We've reached the church audience. So I just try to, what I do is just try to teach practical principles. I may not bring the scripture in until the end of my sermon and i might feel bad about that. Here's the thought. I talked yesterday about living to give. That's what a life should be about. I brought in at the end about some of the scriptures that talk about that. But same principal in the book.


KING: Is it hard to lead a Christian life?

OSTEEN: I don't think it's that hard. To me it's fun. We have joy and happiness. Our family -- I don't feel like that at all. I'm not trying to follow a set of rules and stuff. I'm just living my life.


OSTEEN: We do have rules. But the main rule to me is to honor God with your life. To life a life of integrity. Not be selfish. You know, help others. But that's really the essence of the Christian faith.

KING: That we live in deeds?

OSTEEN: I don't know. What do you mean by that?

KING: Because we've had ministers on who said, your record don't count. You either believe in Christ or you don't. If you believe in Christ, you are, you are going to heaven. And if you don't no matter what you've done in your life, you ain't.

OSTEEN: Yeah, I don't know. There's probably a balance between. I believe you have to know Christ. But I think that if you know Christ, if you're a believer in God, you're going to have some good works. I think it's a cop-out to say I'm a Christian but I don't ever do anything ...

KING: What if you're Jewish or Muslim, you don't accept Christ at all?

OSTEEN: You know, I'm very careful about saying who would and wouldn't go to heaven. I don't know ...

KING: If you believe you have to believe in Christ? They're wrong, aren't they?

OSTEEN: Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong. I believe here's what the Bible teaches and from the Christian faith this is what I believe. But I just think that only God with judge a person's heart. I spent a lot of time in India with my father. I don't know all about their religion. But I know they love God. And I don't know. I've seen their sincerity. So I don't know. I know for me, and what the Bible teaches, I want to have a relationship with Jesus.


KING: Do you ever involve politics in the sermons?

OSTEEN: Never do. My father never ...

KING: Never mention President Bush?

OSTEEN: Well, only to pray. Only to pray. We prayed for President Bush, Clinton, all of them. But I've never been political. My father hasn't. I just, I have no ...

KING: How about issues that the church has feelings about? Abortion? Same-sex marriages?

OSTEEN: Yeah. You know what, Larry? I don't go there. I just ...

KING: You have thoughts, though.

OSTEEN: I have thoughts. I just, you know, I don't think that a same-sex marriage is the way God intended it to be. I don't think abortion is the best. I think there are other, you know, a better way to live your life. But I'm not going to condemn those people. I tell them all the time our church is open for everybody.

KING: You don't call them sinners?

OSTEEN: I don't.

KING: Is that a word you don't use?

OSTEEN: I don't use it. I never thought about it. But I probably don't. But most people already know what they're doing wrong. When I get them to church I want to tell them that you can change. There can be a difference in your life. So I don't go down the road of condemning.

KING: You believe in the Bible literally?

OSTEEN: I do, I do.

CALLER: Hello, Larry. You're the best, and thank you, Joe -- Joel -- for your positive messages and your book. I'm wondering, though, why you side-stepped Larry's earlier question about how we get to heaven? The bible clearly tells us that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light and the only way to the father is through him. That's not really a message of condemnation but of truth.

OSTEEN: Yes, I would agree with her. I believe that...

KING: So then a Jew is not going to heaven?

OSTEEN: No. Here's my thing, Larry, is I can't judge somebody's heart. You know? Only god can look at somebody's heart, and so -- I don't know. To me, it's not my business to say, you know, this one is or this one isn't. I just say, here's what the bible teaches and I'm going to put my faith in Christ. And I just I think it's wrong when you go around saying, you're saying you're not going, you're not going, you're not going, because it's not exactly my way. I'm just...

KING: But you believe your way.

OSTEEN: I believe my way. I believe my way with all my heart.

KING: But for someone who doesn't share it is wrong, isn't he?

OSTEEN: Well, yes. Well, I don't know if I look at it like that. I would present my way, but I'm just going to let god be the judge of that. I don't know. I don't know.

KING: So you make no judgment on anyone?

OSTEEN: No. But I...

KING: What about atheists?

OSTEEN: You know what, I'm going to let someone -- I'm going to let god be the judge of who goes to heaven and hell. I just -- again, I present the truth, and I say it every week. You know, I believe it's a relationship with Jesus. But you know what? I'm not going to go around telling everybody else if they don't want to believe that that's going to be their choice. God's got to look at your own heart. God's got to look at your heart, and only god knows that.


CALLER: My second question would be -- I don't know -- I heard him talking a little bit ago about how he sees faith getting stronger in America and across the world, and I believe that it's the opposite, that -- we're seeing higher rates of divorce, higher rates of drug and alcohol use among young people, and old, and with abductions, and things like that getting worse and worse.

KING: What do you think, Joel? First, inspired word.

OSTEEN: Yes, I believe the bible is god's inspired word. As far as the other we kind of talked about, I can see his point, but I think there's another point. How can we be moving our church into our basketball arena that seats 16,000 people? I mean, people are hungry for hope and encouragement.


KING: All right, what makes a good evangelist?

OSTEEN: Well, I don't know that I really know, but I think that you have a sincere heart, that you're pure before God and that you've got a relevant, practical message. And I think that's one reason the church has grown is because we've changed with the times. I mean, the music is upbeat. My message is what's going to help you during the week and things like that.

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Scripture says:

Joh 8:31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed in him, "If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."


Joh 8:42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he sent me. 43 Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me.


1Jo 2:21 I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT, and because no lie is of the truth.

Joh 7:24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."

Is. 8 20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, they have no light of dawn.

Heb 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice TO DISTINGUISH good from evil.

Gal 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. 10 For am I now seeking the approval of man, or of God? Or am I trying to please man? If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of Christ.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Mat 7:17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit.

1Jo 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Mat 7:5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and THEN you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

1Jo 2:21 I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth.

2Jo 1:9 Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.

Osteen Offers Prayer and Praise for Rebellious Lesbian Feminist Mayor Parker

Jer 8:11 They have healed the wound of my people lightly, saying, 'Peace, peace,' when there is no peace. 12 Were they ashamed when they committed abomination? No, they were not at all ashamed; they did not know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among the fallen; when I punish them, they shall be overthrown, says the LORD...15 We looked for peace, but no good came; for a time of healing, but behold, terror.


Dave Welch at Worldnetdaily talks about Joel Osteen giving the invocation for Lesiban Houston mayor Annise Parker at her inaugaration :

"… We ask that everything we do would bring honor to you … and we just lift up especially Mayor Annise Parker. … Lord, we thank you just for raising her up and just for your goodness, your mercy in her life, and just for supernatural wisdom, Father. We honor her today and our other officials, and Lord, we count it a joy and honor to be here in your presence with all of our friends and we just thank you for this day. In Jesus name, amen."

Video: marker: 8:30.

Is it a shock that Osteen prays and praises lesbian feminist Parker? No. Why? Well, for one Osteen has a false god and gospel. Secondly he said he didn't know about homosexuals going to heaven or not on Larry King's show several years ago. Thirdly, Osteen just wants adulation from man. Fourth, he has no fear of God. His invocation for homosexual Parker was to the same god as Rick Warren's invocation at Obama's: a god who is false and cannot save.

They will be judged. God will NOT be mocked.

1Co 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1Ti 1:8 Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully,
1Ti 1:9 understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers,
1Ti 1:10 the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,
1Ti 1:11 in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted.

Mat 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.


Dave Welch makes a good point in showing how Brit Hume was burned by the uproar of calling Tiger Woods to reject Buddism and turn to Jesus Christ, but Osteen is applauded for invoking His name at a Lesbian feminist mayoral inauguration. The issue is this: one shows the intolerance and powerlessness of Buddism and the ONLY hope is Jesus Christ the Resurrected Lord; the other approves and accomodates rebellion against God and slaps on the holy name of Jesus. Which one do you think the world would therefore be ok with?

Joh 15:19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

Here's the real Jesus of Scripture, not the false one of Warren or Osteen which approves of sin and rebellion and deception and unholiness:


Rev 19:13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God.
Rev 19:14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.
Rev 19:15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
Rev 19:16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

Thursday, December 31, 2009

He chose you to be trophies of His grace!

Amazing love, how can it be?! God bless those who are in Christ Jesus this New Year and may you continue to look to Christ Jesus in all things and find comfort in Him who is called Faithful and True!


He chose you to be trophies of His grace!

(Charles Spurgeon)

"You yourselves, as living stones, are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ." 1 Peter 2:5

God builds a palace for Himself in heaven, made of 'living stones'. Where did He get them? Has He brought forth the richest and the purest marble from the fine quarries of Paris? No! Christians, look to "the hole of the pit where you were dug out of, and to the rock where you were cut from!" You were full of sin. Far from being stones that were white with purity--you were black with defilement, seemingly utterly unfit to be stones in the spiritual temple, which would be the dwelling-place of the Most High God. And yet, He chose you to be trophies of His grace!

Goldsmiths make exquisite jewelry from precious materials; they fashion the bracelet and the ring from gold. But God makes His jewels out of base materials. From the black pebbles of the defiling brooks--He has taken up stones, which He has set in the golden ring of His immutable love, to make them gems to sparkle on His finger forever. He has not selected the best--but apparently the worst of men--to be the monuments of His grace!

False Teachers Rick Warren, Ron Parsely Beg for Money

Ricky Warren, PDL and PEACE huckster is begging for money, according to NewsMax.

Apparently his "church" is in the tank. That leaves one to question where all the millions of dollars he makes yearly from all his PDL paraphenalia and new books and speaking engagements, etc. has gone? He prides himself on reverse tithing. So? Where did all that money go? This was all above and beyond the weekly giving at Saddleback. Someone needs to follow the money in a big way. However, Saddleback doesn't reveal their finances to the public. I wonder why?

In the same vein, Ron Parsely, Word of Faith huckster doesn't seem to have enough faith to speak forth his positive confession to get money and now manipulates his audience to pay up.

Wednesday, December 30, 2009

Obama, Terrorism, and Gitmo: terrorism works even if you deny Muslim Terrorists exist

1)More attacks on the way via Yemen:

"Hundreds of al-Qaeda militants are planning terror attacks from Yemen, the country’s Foreign Minister said today.


Abu Bakr al-Qirbi appealed for more help from the international community to help to train and equip counter-terrorist forces.


His plea came after an al-Qaeda group based in Yemen claimed responsibility for the failed Christmas Day airliner bomb plot."

2)RAW DATA: Former Gitmo Detainees Who Returned to Terrorism:

"A growing number of former Guantanamo Bay detainees are said to be returning to terrorism in the Middle East and elsewhere.


The Pentagon most recently released a report in May showing that one in seven former detainees either returned, or is suspected of returning, to terrorist activity. At least two of them have taken leading roles in Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the group that has claimed responsibility for the attempted bombing of a Northwest Airlines flight on Christmas Day. "


3)Administration Rejects Calls to Reconsider Guantanamo Closure Plan:

The Obama administration is pushing back against calls to halt or delay closing the Guantanamo Bay prison in light of the failed Christmas Day terror attack, suggesting that shutting down the prison will undermine terrorist recruitment in the very network that claimed responsibility for last week's plot.

Seniors officials told Fox News that nobody in the administration is reconsidering President Obama's plan to close Guantanamo Bay. Though the closure probably will not occur until 2011 due to a series of setbacks, officials said locking down Guantanamo is still in the "national security interest."


"The detention facility at Guantanamo has been used by Al Qaeda as a rallying cry and recruiting tool -- including its affiliate Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. As our military leaders have recognized, closing the detention facility at Guantanamo is a national security imperative," one senior official told Fox News.


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Monday Obama stated: "The American people should be assured that we are doing everything in our power to keep you and your families safe and secure during this busy holiday season. Since I was first notified of this incident I've ordered the following actions to be taken to protect the American people and to secure air travel." ~source

Everything but keep GITMO open and gathering up terrorists...oh wait, there is no such thing as a Muslim terrorist for Obama.

Typical liberalism, say one thing and do the opposite.

We should sue the government for not protecting us AND aiding and abetting terororists. This is the definition of insanity. These terrorists can't do anything while at GITMO, but only when they are released as the facts show.

One other thing is just as clear as the insanity and clear hypocrisy of this administration: terrorism works, especially with liberals. The cowardly appeasement is killing us and will continue to do so, and likely on the scale of 9-11 because the bullies know we are too afraid to do anything. Appeasement is agreement.

Monday, December 28, 2009

Ignoring The Signs of Islamic Terrorism, Yet Consider Christians The Extreemists

This Abdulmutallab terrorist (who clumsily tried to blow up the plane flying from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day) showed signs of his Islamic terrorism from as far back as 2001, but people are "shocked"? Let us review for a moment:

Abdulmutallab:

*comes from an Islamic country
*gave alms to the poor while in London
*defended the Taliban
*was a devote Muslim
*got upset when his teacher took studends to a pub that served alcohol
*showed signs of inflexibility
*kept to himself
*break the laws by sneaking into countries and hiding explosives

But he's not an Islamic terrorist. They are shocked he could "do such a thing"? Yes, this is also what they say about EVERY terrorist, including Hasan who commited jihad on Ft. Hood.

Yet the liberals (including those in the government) consider Christians as the extreemists and are dangerous by wanting to talk about Creation, the Bible, and Jesus, especially at Christmastime. The quran commands the slaughter of non-Muslims, while Scripture says Christians are not to take up the sword to persuade non-Christians.

Surah 4:89: If they turn apostates, seize them and kill them wherever you find them.

Surah 4:91: Seize them and kill them wherever you get them.

Surah 5:33: The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his apostle...they shall be slaughtered, or crucified , or their hands and feet shall be struck off alternately, or they shall be banished from the land.

Surah 5:51: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends.

Yet Scripture clearly states:

Joh 18:36 Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world."

Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.

2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh. 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. 5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ, 6 being ready to punish every disobedience, when your obedience is complete.

Mat 10:14 And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.


Scripture teaches our battle is not with flesh and blood, but a spiritual one, which is why those who are true disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ cannot use a sword against those who reject the Lord or their message, unlike Islam where they are called to kill them. No, we Christians are apparently the red flag, not the Hasans and Abdulmutallab's of this world.

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

A.W. Pink: Signs of The Times (The Gospel Includes The Lordship of Christ)

Excerpts :

It is generally recognized that spirituality is at a low ebb in Christendom, and not a few perceive that sound doctrine is rapidly on the wane, yet many of the Lord’s people take comfort from supposing that the Gospel is still being widely preached and that large numbers are being saved thereby. Alas, their optimistic supposition is ill-founded and grounded in sand. If the "message" now being delivered in Mission Halls be examined, if the "tracts" which are scattered among the unchurched masses be scrutinized, if the "open air" speakers be carefully listened to, if the "sermons" or "addresses" of a "Soul-winning campaign" be analyzed; in short, if modern "Evangelism" be weighed in the balances of Holy Writ, it will be found wanting—lacking that which is vital to a genuine conversion, lacking what is essential if sinners are to be shown their need of a Saviour, lacking that which will produce the transfigured lives of new creatures in Christ Jesus.

It is in no captious spirit that we write, seeking to make a man an offender for a word. It is not that we are looking for perfection, and complain because we cannot find it; nor that we criticize others because they are not doing things as we think they should be done. No; no, it is a matter far more serious than that. The "evangelism" of the day is not only superficial to the last degree, but it is radically defective. It is utterly lacking a foundation on which to base an appeal for sinners to come to Christ. There is not only a lamentable lack of proportion (the mercy of God being made far more prominent than His holiness, His love than His wrath), but there is a fatal omission of that which God has given for the purpose of imparting a knowledge of sin. There is not only reprehensible introducing of "bright singing," humorous witticisms and entertaining anecdotes, but there is a studied omission of the dark background upon which alone the Gospel can effectually shine forth.

But serious indeed as is the above indictment, it is only half of it—the negative side, that which is lacking. Worse still is that which is being retailed by the cheap-jerk evangelists of the day. The positive content of their message is nothing but a throwing of dust in the eyes of the sinner. His soul is put to sleep by the Devil’s opiate, ministered in a most unsuspecting form. Those who really receive the "message" which is now being given out from most of the "orthodox" pulpits and platforms today are being fatally deceived. It is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but unless God sovereignly intervenes by a miracle of grace, all who follow it will surely find that the ends thereof are the ways of death. Tens of thousands who confidently imagine they are bound for Heaven will get a terrible disillusionment when they awake in Hell.

What is the Gospel? Is it a message of glad tidings from Heaven to make God-defying rebels at ease in their wickedness? Is it given for the purpose of assuring the pleasure-crazy young people that, providing they only "believe" there is nothing for them to fear in the future? One would certainly think so from the way in which the Gospel is presented—or rather perverted—by most of the "evangelists," and the more so when we look at the lives of their "converts." Surely those with any degree of spiritual discernment must perceive that to assure such that God loves them and His Son died for them, and that a full pardon for all their sins (past, present, and future) can be obtained by simply "accepting Christ as their personal Saviour," is but a casting of pearls before swine.

The Gospel is not a thing apart. It is not something independent of the prior revelation of God’s Law. It is not an announcement that God has relaxed His justice or lowered the standard of His holiness. So far from that, when Scripturally expounded the Gospel presents the clearest demonstration and the most positive proof of the inexorableness of God’s justice and of His infinite abhorrence of sin. But for Scripturally expounding the Gospel, beardless youths and businessmen who devote their spare time to "evangelistic effort," are quite unqualified. Alas that the pride of the flesh suffers so many incompetent ones to rush in where those much wiser fear to tread. It is this multiplying of novices that is largely responsible for the woeful situation now confronting us, and because the "churches" and "assemblies" are so largely filled with their "converts," explains why they are so unspiritual and worldly.

No, my reader, the Gospel is very, very far from making light of sin. It reveals to us the terrible sword of His justice smiting His beloved Son in order that atonement might be made for the transgressions of His people. So far from the Gospel setting aside the Law, it exhibits the Saviour enduring the curse of it. Calvary supplied the most solemn and awe-inspiring display of God’s hatred of sin that time or eternity will ever furnish. And do you imagine that the Gospel is magnified or God glorified by going to worldlings and telling them that they "may be saved at this moment by simply accepting Christ as their personal Saviour" while they are wedded to their idols and their hearts still in love with sin? If I do so, I tell them a lie, pervert the Gospel, insult Christ, and turn the grace of God into lasciviousness.

No doubt some readers are ready to object to our "harsh" and "sarcastic" statements above by asking, When the question was put "What must I do to be saved?" did not an inspired Apostle expressly say "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved?" Can we err, then, if we tell sinners the same thing today? Have we not Divine warrant for so doing? True, those words are found in Holy Writ, and because they are, many superficial and untrained people conclude they are justified in repeating them to all and sundry. But let it be pointed out that Acts 16:31 was not addressed to a promiscuous multitude, but to a particular individual, which at once intimates that it is not a message to be indiscriminately sounded forth, but rather a special word, to those whose characters correspond to the one to whom it was first spoken.
Verses of Scripture must not be wrenched from their setting, but weighed, interpreted, and applied in accord with their context; and that calls for prayerful consideration, careful meditation, and prolonged study; and it is failure at this point which accounts for these shoddy and worthless "messages" of this rush-ahead age. Look at the context of Acts 16:31, and what do we find? What was the occasion, and to whom was it that the Apostle and his companion said "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ"? A sevenfold answer is there furnished, which supplies a striking and complete delineation of the character of those to whom we are warranted in giving this truly evangelistic word. As we briefly names these seven details, let the reader carefully ponder them....


The nature of Christ’s salvation is woefully misrepresented by the present-day "evangelist." He announces a Saviour from Hell, rather than a Saviour from sin. And that is why so many are fatally deceived, for there are multitudes who wish to escape the Lake of Fire who have no desire to be delivered from their carnality and worldliness. The very first thing said of Him in the New Testament is, "thou shalt call his name JESUS: for He shall save His people (not "from the wrath to come," but) from their sins" (Matt. 1:21). Christ is a Saviour for those realizing something of the exceeding sinfulness of sin, who felt the awful burden of it on their conscience, so loathe themselves for it, who long to be freed from its terrible dominion; and a Saviour for no others. Were He to "save from Hell" those who were still in love with sin, He would be the Minister of sin, condoning their wickedness and siding with them against God. What an unspeakably horrible and blasphemous thing with which to charge the Holy One!
Should the reader exclaim, I was not conscious of the heinousness of sin nor bowed down with a sense of my guilt when Christ saved me, then we unhesitatingly reply, Either you have never been saved at all, or you were not saved as early as you supposed. True, as the Christian grows in grace he has a clearer realization now what sin is—rebellion against God— and a deeper hatred of and sorrow for it: but to think that one may be saved by Christ whose conscience has never been smitten by the Spirit and whose heart has not been made contrite before God, is to imagine something which has no existence whatever in the realm of fact. "They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick" (Matt. 9:12): the only ones who really seek relief from the Great Physician are they that are sick of sin—who long to be delivered from its God-dishonouring works and its soul-defiling pollutions.

Inasmuch, then, as Christ’s salvation is a salvation from sin—from the love of it, from its dominion, from its guile and penalty—then it necessarily follows that the first great task and the chief work of the evangelist is to preach upon SIN: to define what sin (as distinct from crime) really is, to show wherein its infinite enormity consists; to trace out its manifold workings in the heart; to indicate that nothing less than eternal punishment is its desert. Ah, and preaching upon sin—not merely uttering a few platitudes concerning it, but devoting sermon after sermon to explaining what sin is in the light of God—will not make him popular nor draw the crowds, will it? No, it will not, and knowing this, those who love the praise of men more than the approbation of God, and who value their salary above immortal souls, trim their sails accordingly. "But such preaching will drive people away!" We answer, Far better drive the people away by faithful preaching than drive the Holy Spirit away by unfaithfully pandering to the flesh.
Salvation is by grace, by grace alone, for a fallen creature cannot possibly do anything to merit God’s approval or earn His favour. Nevertheless, Divine grace is not exercised at the expense of holiness, for it never compromises with sin. It is also true that salvation is a free gift. but an empty hand must receive it, and not a hand which still tightly grasps the world! But it is not true that "Christ has done everything for the sinner." He did not fill the sinner’s belly with the husks which the swine eat and find them unable to satisfy. He has not turned the sinner’s back on the far country, arisen, gone to the Father, and acknowledged his sins—those are acts which the sinner himself must perform. True, he will not be saved for the performance of them, yet it is equally true that he cannot be saved without the performance of them—any more than the prodigal could receive the Father’s kiss and ring while he still remained at a guilty distance from Him!

The way of salvation is falsely defined. In most instances the modern "evangelist" assures his congregation that all any sinner has to do in order to escape Hell and make sure of Heaven is to "receive Christ as his personal Saviour." But such teaching is utterly misleading. No one can receive Christ as Saviour while he rejects Him as Lord. It is true the preacher adds that the one who accepts Christ should also surrender to Him as Lord, but he at once spoils it by asserting that though the convert fails to do so, nevertheless Heaven is sure to him. That is one of the Devil’s lies. Only those who are spiritually blind would declare that Christ will save any who despise His authority and refuse His yoke: why, my reader, that would not be grace but a disgrace—charging Christ with placing a premium on lawlessness.

Alas, alas, God’s "way of salvation" is almost entirely unknown today. The nature of Christ’s salvation is almost universally misunderstood, and the terms of His salvation misrepresented on every hand. The "Gospel" which is now being proclaimed is, in nine cases out of every ten, but a perversion of the Truth, and tens of thousands, assured they are bound for Heaven, are now hastening to Hell, as fast as time can take them. Things are far, far worse in Christendom than even the "pessimist" and the "alarmist" suppose. We are not a prophet, nor shall we indulge in any speculation of what Biblical prophecy forecasts—wiser men than the writer have often made fools of themselves by so doing. We are frank to say that we know not what God is about to do. Religious conditions were much worse, even in England, one hundred and fifty years ago. But this we greatly fear; unless God is pleased to grant a real revival, it will not be long ere "the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people" (Isa. 60:2), for the light of the true Gospel is rapidly disappearing. Modern "Evangelism" constitutes, in our judgment, the most solemn of all the "signs of the times."

What must the people of God do in view of the existing situation? Ephesians 5:11 supplies the Divine answer: "Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them," and everything opposed to the light of the Word is "darkness." It is the bounden duty of every Christian to have no dealings with the "evangelistic" monstrosity of the day; to withhold all moral and financial support of the same, to attend none of their meetings, to circulate none of their tracts. Those preachers who tell sinners they may be saved without forsaking their idols, without repenting, without surrendering to the Lordship of Christ, are as erroneous and dangerous as others who insist that salvation is by works and that Heaven must be earned by our own efforts.

Oral Roberts: His Death and His False Gospel of the Word of Faith Movement

After all those false visions and prophecies and teachings and healings.
After stealing people's money and living a lavish lifestyle.
After threatening God would kill him if he didn't raise $8 million in 12 months for his ORU scholarships.
After the failure of the City of Faith.
After a 900 foot Jesus appeared to him.


Now he's gone.
Now he knows with Whom he has triffled with.
Now he pays for swindling and lying in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, twisting and abusing HIS Word for his own gain.



Will the WOFers get it NOW? The "great healer" DIED of sickness. The "great healer's" wife DIED of sickness. The "great healer's" grand-child DIED of sickness. So either Oral Roberts lacked faith OR his doctrine was wrong. Which was it? Which are you, Charismatics (WOFers) willing to say? If your leader lacked faith, do you think you can out-faith him? If his doctrine was wrong, are you willing to reject it for the Truth of Scripture?

WOF doctrine of health and wealth, their blasted Genie on High whom they can command at will, is putrid, fake, empty, cruel, and evil.
It is without power, purity, integrity, and agape love.
It hates Truth, but loves error.
It hates Christ, but loves the world.

It hates the Cross but loves money, fortune and fame.
It hates humility but loves power.
It hates the souls of men, but loves the soul of Self.



Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

False Prophet and Teacher, Oral Roberts, Dies At 91

Act 8:18 Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money, 19 saying, "Give me this power also, so that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit." 20 But Peter said to him, "May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money!

News:

TULSA, Okla. – Oral Roberts a pioneer in televangelism who founded a multimillion-dollar ministry and a university that bears his name, died Tuesday. He was 91. Roberts died of complications from pneumonia in Newport Beach, Calif., according to his spokesman, A. Larry Ross. The evangelist was hospitalized after a fall on Saturday. He had survived two heart attacks in the 1990s and a broken hip in 2006.

Roberts was a pioneer who broadcast his spirit-filled revivals on television, a new frontier for religion when he started in the 1950s. He was also a forerunner of the controversial "prosperity gospel" that has come to dominate televangelism. The evangelist's "Seed-Faith" theology held that those who give to God will get things in return.

"If God had not, in His sovereign will, raised up the ministry of Oral Roberts, the entire charismatic movement might not have occurred," said Jack Hayford, president of the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, in a statement.

His ministry hit upon rocky times in the 1980s. There was controversy over his City of Faith medical center, a $250 million investment that eventually folded, and Roberts' widely ridiculed proclamation that God would "call me home" if he failed to meet a fundraising goal of $8 million. A law school he founded also was shuttered.

Semiretired in recent years and living in California, he returned to Tulsa, Okla., in October 2007 as scandal roiled Oral Roberts University. His son, Richard Roberts, who succeeded him as ORU president, faced allegations of spending university money on shopping sprees and other luxuries at a time the institution was more than $50 million in debt.

Richard Roberts resigned as president in November 2007, marking the first time since Oral Roberts University was chartered in 1963 that a member of the Roberts family would not be at its helm. The rocky period for the evangelical school was eased when billionaire Oklahoma City businessman Mart Green donated $70 million and helped run the school in the interim, pledging to restore the public's trust. By the fall of 2009, things were looking up, with officials saying tens of millions of dollars worth of debt had been paid off and enrollment was up slightly.

End quote.

Richard Roberts' scandal here. Oral Robert's interview this year (summertime I think).

Jer 23:32 Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares the LORD, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness, when I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares the LORD.

Jud 1:10 But these people blaspheme all that they do not understand, and they are destroyed by all that they, like unreasoning animals, understand instinctively. 11 Woe to them! For they walked in the way of Cain and abandoned themselves for the sake of gain to Balaam's error and perished in Korah's rebellion... 18 They said to you, "In the last time there will be scoffers, following their own ungodly passions." 19 It is these who cause divisions, worldly people, devoid of the Spirit.

Oral Roberts was one of the most notorious Word of Faith teachers America has ever seen. By his own circle's admission, without him, the Charismatic movement (which morphed into the Word of Faith movement) would not have gotten to where it is without him. Pat Robertson in the video I've linked to below, says Oral's ministry of healing was a "fountainhead". His miracles weren't miracles. He attached a price to them: seed money. True miracles we see in Scripture. For instance, the healing of a parlyzed man, whom the entire village knew to be so. Jesus first forgave him of his and then healed him completely (Mark 2). In fact, Jesus always healed immediately, completely, and wholely. No need for crutches or physical therapy, Jesus the Creator, gave him fully restored, fully functioning muscles and bones, instantaneously. But MORE important was the man's soul and salvation was his greatest need. Jesus demonstrated His deity before everyone there by forgiving him and healing him completely and immediately.

God was dishonored by Oral Roberts who slapped the name of Jesus Christ onto his false prophecies("If we don't raise $8 million in 12 months, God will strike me dead"; City of Faith medical facility--odd considering he was supposed to be able to heal tens of thousands), visions (900 foot tall Jesus);teachings (God wants you rich and healed; you can buy a miracle), superstitions (New Age points of contact for a healing), and threats (of his death if money didn't roll in). He knew not Christ, for he did not preach Christ. He preached money (apparently that money he always demanded when straight to his family: according to a former employee, he owned several homes, lived a lavish lifestyle with the newst cars, flashy jewelry and suits, and country club memberships) selfish gain, offering to sell the power of "the Spirit" for money, dangling hope in front of his followers for a miracle if only they would "sow a seed" which was ALWAYS money. Scripture condemns such filthy practice for this is not God, its of Satan. Its works, not grace. Its Self, not Christ.

But here's the REAL test of this "prophet" for all Word of Faith/Charismatics/Pentecostals to consider: of all the people who should have had enough faith to be healed, why did Oral Roberts die? Surely the "fountainhead" of the healing ministry, as Pat Robertson calls him in the video I've linked to below, had enough faith? We can go back decades to the tragedies in his life and the loss of several family members including a baby. This should've woken up his followers that even Oral Roberts' didn't have the power of faith that he claimed he had. So this "fountainhead" of a miracle ministry died of sickness after a fall.

Could it be that his doctrine and practice were false and without power? The answer is clearly, yes.

Now the question that remains: will they place Oral Roberts' body in front of Benny Hinn to be raised to life, as Hinn claimed on Oct. 19, 1999?

The Gospel of Satan

Wednesday, December 02, 2009

Supressing Evidence By The "Scientific" Community:anything to defend their religion

Recent news of the research censorship by Global warming "scientists" is nothing new. Back in October I read about this very thing within the Evolution religion. Climategate only confirms the presupositional and agenda driven bias of the religion of science.

Dinosaur DNA Research by ICR excerpts:

This article referenced then-recent
findings of fresh dinosaur tissue:
Mary Schweitzer, a biology graduate
student at Montana State University’s
Museum of the Rockies, was examining a
thin section of Tyrranosaurus rex bone…
when she noticed a series of peculiar
structures. Round and tiny and nucleated,
they were threaded through the bone
like red blood cells in blood vessels. But
blood cells in a dinosaur bone should
have disappeared eons ago. “I got goose
bumps,” recalls Schweitzer. “It was exactly
like looking at a slice of modern bone. But,
of course, I couldn’t believe it. I said to the
lab technician: ‘The bones, after all, are 65
million years old. How could blood cells
survive that long?’”2

Why was Schweitzer, an eyewitness
who microscopically observed the insides of
a T. rex bone, afraid to believe her own eyes?
Isn’t empirical science all about observation?
Furthermore, Morell reported, “Schweitzer
has already extracted a molecule that might
be dinosaur DNA.”

However, connective tissue ruins and
degrades over time, such that DNA should
not survive at all, even if the creature only
lived 50,000 years ago.3 The existence of
65 million-year-old DNA
is biochemically unthinkable.

In other words, the
old-earth evolutionary tale
is clearly at odds with the fresh dinosaur
bone evidence. How embarrassing to the
academic establishment! This may be why
ongoing dinosaur soft tissue discoveries are
generally not broadcast through popular
media channels.

In suppressed dinosaur DNA research—
which is a subset of the irrefutable, but hushed,
dinosaur soft tissue discoveries—the same
issue of evidence spoliation is relevant. Why?
Because today’s dinosaur DNA controversy in
particular, and today’s dinosaur “connective
tissue” controversy in general, directly puts at
issue the real age of the dinosaurs: Did they live
millions of years ago, or in much more recent
history on an earth inhabited by humans—
descendants of Adam and Eve?9

This purposeful pattern
of coerced concealment of the
nonconforming DNA data from
unfossilized dinosaur bones (labeled
“an anomaly” on the chart) involves
what courtroom lawyers and
judges call “chilling” coercion and
“spoliation of evidence”—inducing
the concealment (and eventual
destruction) of embarrassing information
in order to prevent one’s
opponent from using it at trial.
Whenever any kind of evidence
is concealed, one immediately
questions the spoliators’ motives
for doing so. The intuitive answer is
that they dislike what the information
would reveal. Therefore, to spoliate evidence
suggests that the spoliators’ argument or
theory would be weakened, or embarrassed,
by that evidence. This suggestion is so strong,
forensically speaking, that it is treated as a rule
of presumptive inference in law courts. In other
words, if someone hides evidence in this way,
the law presumes that the hidden evidence was
damaging to the argument of the spoliator. The
spoliator then bears the burden of proof to
show otherwise.6


The coerced suppression of the results
by the evolutionary scientific community
has dissuaded anyone else from publishing
dinosaur DNA research that is not in line with
evolutionary dictates. Such self-censorship
“chills” empirical research, which prevents the
public reporting of observable DNA sequences
in order to insulate the larger story of particlesto-
people evolution from cross-examination.

Tuesday, December 01, 2009

Emergent Conference: Exponential 10

Exponential 10
Ed Stetzer, Ken Blanchard (New Age/Contemplative promoter), Alan Hirsch, Darrin Patrick, Francis Chan, Shane Claiborne, Matt Chandler. This conference includes women "pastors" and head over various church ministries. Also speaking: Tim Stevens, head Goat-Herder at X-rated Granger Community "Church".
Wake up folks, Chan and Chandler continue to speak at these aweful Emergent conferences. They ARE supporting and finding common ground with this anti-biblical movement.