Keven Swanson of "Generations With Vision" writes about the reasons given him to vote for Romney and why he won't:
"In the end, conservatives have failed. The entire conservative movement has been an utter failure, and they need to admit it. The reason for this is that they have proved themselves to be unprincipled. A conservative walks into a restaurant and orders a little less than what ever the liberal is having. The cook always gives him more. Always. At root, conservatives are not solid people. They have no principled foundation. They are not interested in true repentance. And, they certainly aren’t willing to pledge their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor for the cause of any principle. So, they will lose." ~ Kevin Swanson of Generations With Vision
This is true, especially for those who are supposed to be the most principled of all people: Christians.
He then goes on to say in part:
The third reason why I should vote for the Other Guy is that he really does have better rhetoric. They tell us that it is possible that the Other Guy’s rhetoric is better than his record, and he ought to be trusted because of that. To which I say, “Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me 395 times, I’M A COMPLETE IDIOT!” Rhetoric changes so often in political races, I encourage people not to pay any attention to it, whatsoever. The only way to know whether a man is principled on any issue is to review his record. If he has supported homosexuality, abortion, big government socialism, or big-government medicine in his previous political involvement, he is not to be trusted with a higher office. Period. Conversions may be proven in lower offices. If this man was converted after his horrendous record in the Massachusett’s State Government, then let it be proven in a lower office first. If homosexuality in the public arena is a growing toxin in American life, and if he blasted the Boy Scouts for their opposition to homosexual involvement, then how do we know that he would oppose a Hate Crimes bill that would land Christian pastors in prison in 2018?
But for the time being, I am concerned about other things besides electing the Director in charge of dismantling an empire. First of all, why are Christians so fearful and so faithless? They take their positions out of fear – fear of Obama, not fear of God. Their rhetoric is so filled with the “Fear of Obama”, one would think that the beginning of wisdom in this election is the fear of Obama. The enthusiasm with which they embrace the worst Republican ever is breath-taking. This portends the end of the Christian right. They are scraping for the last few crumbs from off the table. Forget trying to get a seat at the table! What they would do for a photo-op with the next unprincipled big shot would blow your mind! Twenty years ago, some of these leaders insisted that they would never vote for a man who would make the rape and incest exception in their position on abortion. Now, they’ve even given up on all incremental repentance and all principled thinking to accept a pragmatic socialist with occasionally decent rhetoric.
End quote.
For the entire article including the fiscal issues etc., go here.
I believe in God. I also believe God. “Discernment is not simply a matter of telling the difference between what is right and wrong; rather it is the difference between right and almost right.” -Charles Spurgeon. Scripture is my authority for all things regarding to life and godliness. 2 Cor.10:5 We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ
Wednesday, October 17, 2012
Tuesday, October 16, 2012
Billy Graham "Evangelical" Association Admits To Removing Mormonism and Other Names of Cults For Political Reasons
“Our primary focus at the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association has always been promoting the Gospel of Jesus Christ," Ken Barun, chief of staff for the association, told CNN in a statement. "We removed the information from the website because we do not wish to participate in a theological debate about something that has become politicized during this campaign." ~CNN
This proves my point: that this is a spiritual issue and "Christians" are throwing Christ under the bus for the sake of a blasphemer and some temporal "freedom". Think of the many who will not be told the truth of the blasphemy of the Mo
This proves my point: that this is a spiritual issue and "Christians" are throwing Christ under the bus for the sake of a blasphemer and some temporal "freedom". Think of the many who will not be told the truth of the blasphemy of the Mo
rmons because of BGEA loving politics rather than Christ. Anything to make Romney look benign even though he's clearly a hater of Christ (and his politics are no better---go here for some of the liberalism of Romney)
Jer 23:1 "Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of My pasture!" declares the LORD. 2 Therefore thus says the LORD God of Israel concerning the shepherds who are tending My people: "You have scattered My flock and driven them away, and have not attended to them; behold, I am about to attend to you for the evil of your deeds," declares the LORD.
Jer 23:21 "I did not send these prophets, But they ran. I did not speak to them, But they prophesied. 22 "But if they had stood in My council, Then they would have announced My words to My people, And would have turned them back from their evil way And from the evil of their deeds.
Jer 23:1 "Woe to the shepherds who are destroying and scattering the sheep of My pasture!" declares the LORD. 2 Therefore thus says the LORD God of Israel concerning the shepherds who are tending My people: "You have scattered My flock and driven them away, and have not attended to them; behold, I am about to attend to you for the evil of your deeds," declares the LORD.
Jer 23:32 "Behold, I am against those who have prophesied false dreams," declares the LORD, "and related them and led My people astray by their falsehoods and reckless boasting; yet I did not send them or command them, nor do they furnish this people the slightest benefit," declares the LORD.
Wednesday, October 10, 2012
Noah Webster on How to Choose Our Rulers
Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, just men who will rule in the fear of God [Exodus 18:21].… If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, government will soon be corrupted … If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.
~Noah Webster (Compiler of the Webster's Dictionary)
Noah didn't claim to be voting for a pastor as president, either. He kept the bar high for our country's leadership, as we who claim Christ, should too.
~Noah Webster (Compiler of the Webster's Dictionary)
Noah didn't claim to be voting for a pastor as president, either. He kept the bar high for our country's leadership, as we who claim Christ, should too.
Thursday, October 04, 2012
No Compromise
Fear God.
Vote Biblically.
Don't Compromise.
A little leaven leavens the whole loaf. Keeping up a few alters, even ONE to Baal brought God's judgment upon a nation. Asking for a cult member who blasphemes MY Lord and Savior and dares to call Him a liar, is absolute Treason against the King of kinds and Lord of lords.
Tuesday, October 02, 2012
Salvation Is In Christ Alone
Christ alone and no one else. No church, nor pastor, no priest, no saint, no works, no baptism, no family,no education, nothing. Christ Jesus alone, by His power alone, for His glory alone.
Voting: the ends justify the means?
Karl over at Sardis Hour has written an excellent article regarding Christians voting for Romney. Its encouraging to hear another person call on professing Christians to stop being pragmatic and actually ACT on and walk in the faith they say they have.
He says in part:
An excerpt from Karl’s conclusion:
"Time and again we see God’s displeasure with man when he tries to manipulate circumstances by using situational ethics. With politics, as in every sphere, God’s concern is not with us producing results for Him, but with our holiness (I Pet. 1:15-16)! When we fail to obey God’s Word or the principles found therein because we are trying to attain a certain result, we are in effect renouncing God’s sovereignty in the affairs of men and stepping in to “help God out” in areas which He evidently needs the assistance (Job 40:2, Rom. 9:20)!" [Emphasis, mine]
He says in part:
The mindset goes
something like this: Where there is a higher objective or greater good in view,
the lower objective or lesser good must be sacrificed. This idea is sometimes
referred to as “situational ethics” or as the common phrase goes, “the ends justify
the means”.
Sadly, many Christians have
been drawn into the “situational ethics” mentality. Most Christians I know are
planning to vote for Mitt Romney for President in November. Yet Christians by
in large do not view Romney as an “ideal” candidate or even a “desirable”
candidate on his merits alone. However they all view Barack Obama as a much
less desirable option, so Romney is the clear choice at the ballots. The line
of reasoning is pretty consistent; a vote for anyone other than Romney is the
same as a vote for Obama, so the responsible course of action is to vote for
Romney. In other words, the ends (booting Obama out of office) justify the
means (voting for a less-than-desirable candidate). We must all unite together
for the greater good. This particular situation demands that we bite our lip
and do the only thing we can to ensure that Obama does not gain another term in
office — a.k.a., situational ethics.
End quote. [Emphasis, mine]
End quote. [Emphasis, mine]
He goes on to talk about Romney’s still being pro-murder”when
the situation causes too much emotional trama…" Very true and good point.
Karl states:
"Romney is also
well-known for changing his stance on key issues at “convenient” times. If you
believe these changes of heart (also known as “flip-flops”) are not entirely
sincere, then you have at best a person who is double-minded. James 1:8 tells us that such a man is unstable in all his ways (also see Hos. 7:11 & I Kin. 18:21). Even worse, you
may have a person who is so lacking in principle and character that he is
willing to systematically adjust his position on issues in whatever way is most
politically expedient. This is known as the fear of man, and the Word tell us
that the fear of man and not God brings a snare (Prov. 29:25 – also Prov. 1:7, 3:7, 9:10, 16:6). So you’re
willing to vote for someone (to fill the office that demands more leadership
than any other) who is unstable, and may very well be caught in a trap of his
own making." [Emphasis, mine]
Exactly right. I’m glad another person is making this
connection that Romney is not stable but UNSTABLE in thinking. Karl goes on to
explain Romney’s source of faith—that he is not a mere Mormon, but a high
church leader. He then concludes after
explaining the blasphemy of the LDS: “So
you’re also willing to vote for a cultish blasphemer who holds to the doctrine
of Satan himself (Gen. 3:5, Isa. 14:14)!” Right!!!
Karl then asks, “And this truly is the
question. Does God expect us to prioritize our principles in order to achieve a
much better result? Do certain situations demand that we tweak our ethics and
make a decision for the greater good?” [Emphasis, mine]
The answer is given with three examples from Scripture: Saul
and the Philistines; Uzzah and the Ark and; and then Abraham and the Egyptians. All three (and there are plenty more in Scripture) show the disobedience of
pragmatism that is really acting like practical atheists which can bring God’s
judgment.
An excerpt from Karl’s conclusion:
"Time and again we see God’s displeasure with man when he tries to manipulate circumstances by using situational ethics. With politics, as in every sphere, God’s concern is not with us producing results for Him, but with our holiness (I Pet. 1:15-16)! When we fail to obey God’s Word or the principles found therein because we are trying to attain a certain result, we are in effect renouncing God’s sovereignty in the affairs of men and stepping in to “help God out” in areas which He evidently needs the assistance (Job 40:2, Rom. 9:20)!" [Emphasis, mine]
He ends with the fact of God’s sovereign governance over man
and leaders. Ps. 33 and Daniel 4 are excellent passages about this.
Saturday, September 29, 2012
Airo Also Is Not Voting For Romney
Another blogger, Airo rings in on why he won't be voting for Romney.
Excerpt:
Excerpt:
More than Mitt Romney’s Mormon worldview, the undercurrent of deception through the mainstreaming of Mormonism precludes me from voting for him in November. This has been a concern of mine for a couple of years ever since I began observing the pluralistic religious right movement to “awaken America” from her moral decline. We’ve seen it with Rick Perry and the New Apostolic Reformation, and more popularly with Glenn Beck’s revival events. Glenn Beck has been a spearhead in this movement as he leads the charge of the religious right to “restore America” (most recently at the Under God Indivisible and Restoring Love events). In this video clip and subsequent article, you will see Glenn Beck, joined by prominent evangelicals applauding him, as he invokes the name of Jesus Christ as if he worships the same Jesus as Christians.
But it’s not just Glenn Beck who is bringing Mormons, Christians, Catholics, and Jews together under the banner of the same God, we are seeing it take place from the political pulpit. Take, for instance, the following prayer offered by Ken Hutchins, who is the current Mormon Stake President of Boston, at the 2012 Republican National Convention.
End quote.
For the entire list of reasons and documentation, go here.
I'm glad more men are coming out and explaining why they can't and won't vote for Romney.
Friday, September 28, 2012
The Gospel Alternative for this Election by Pastor Don Green
Good points from Don Green on why he's not voting in this election. I hope you give his reasons some true, biblical consideration.
He begins:
He begins:
The Sobering Reality about this Election
I realize that Christians are upset with the Obama administration. I share their revulsion at his open embrace of abortion and the homosexual agenda. In light of that, the controlling question seems to be, “How can we beat Obama?”
I understand the impulse to embrace any candidate who presents a more conservative platform. But I think that’s a wrong way for a Christian to frame his thinking. There are inevitable consequences for the true church of Christ if Christians unite and openly support Mitt Romney.
Even though most Christians are downplaying this issue because it is politically inconvenient, Mormonism is a polytheistic cult that teaches a false Christ and leads souls to eternal damnation.
Its influence used to be isolated to certain geographic regions. What could more ratify the legitimacy of a false religion than to see one of its own elected as the leader of the free world with the outspoken support of evangelical Christians?
Further, if Romney is elected, how will Christians who cheered him forward have any credibility after the election when they warn others about the spiritual dangers of Mormonism? People will see the hypocrisy. “Mormonism is a threat to my soul? Aren’t you the same guy who was telling me to vote for the Mormon a few weeks ago?”
It can only harm the gospel.
Did Christ redeem us to do that?
End quote.
Go here to read the entire article.
Wednesday, September 26, 2012
Abortion In Certain Circumstances Is Still Abortion: Romney is pro-abortion too
The pro-life position is an all-or-nothing position. Either all babies, regardless of circumstance are living human beings with souls and deserve life, not slaughter, or they aren't.
Voddie Baucham has 8 children.Six are adopted.One was conceived in rape,another conceived in incest.Being pro-life except in the case of incest and rape,is saying that these children should'nt have been allowed to live.
"My position has been clear throughout this campaign," Romney said. "I'm in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother." ~Romney, Aug. 27,2012
Romney's view is contrary not only to Scripture, but is the essence of what Baucham just said in the video. You cannot be pro-life and vote pro-abortion. Sorry. Its one OR the other. How will you answer to the thrice holy God Who is Creator of all life?
Voddie Baucham has 8 children.Six are adopted.One was conceived in rape,another conceived in incest.Being pro-life except in the case of incest and rape,is saying that these children should'nt have been allowed to live.
"My position has been clear throughout this campaign," Romney said. "I'm in favor of abortion being legal in the case of rape and incest, and the health and life of the mother." ~Romney, Aug. 27,2012
Romney's view is contrary not only to Scripture, but is the essence of what Baucham just said in the video. You cannot be pro-life and vote pro-abortion. Sorry. Its one OR the other. How will you answer to the thrice holy God Who is Creator of all life?
Monday, September 24, 2012
Thursday, September 20, 2012
Govern Without God and the Bible?
Christians keep telling me that it IS possible to govern without the Bible and God because after all, we aren't voting in a pastor. Apparently its also possible to vote without God and the Bible in the voting booth too. That's also what these "Christians" keep telling me.
Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Whom Are We To Fear?
Why fear at all, if we truly believe Scripture: Proverbs 21:1 The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.
Fearing man is not to be part of the Christian life. Walk by faith and not by sight. Setting your eyes on your temporary freedoms is walking by sight, by the flesh, and not by faith that rests on what is NOT seen.
Your freedoms are temporary, but allegiance to Christ and Scripture are to be eternal.
Fearing man is not to be part of the Christian life. Walk by faith and not by sight. Setting your eyes on your temporary freedoms is walking by sight, by the flesh, and not by faith that rests on what is NOT seen.
Your freedoms are temporary, but allegiance to Christ and Scripture are to be eternal.
The Blasphemy of Violating Christian Rights
I suppose "Christians" consider their rights or freedoms being violated by Obama is blasphemy. The real blasphemy is when a man says:
Isa 14:13 "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.
Isa 14:14 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
Isa 14:15 "Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol, To the recesses of the pit.
Isa 14:13 "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north.
Isa 14:14 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
Isa 14:15 "Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol, To the recesses of the pit.
Romney Vs Obama
God will not be any more honored with Romney than He is with Obama. Its presumptuous to think so, especially given that Romney has set himself on the ladder to become like the Most High and rule above the clouds.
Ascending to Heaven To Be Like the Most High: a blasphemy even "Christians" can get behind
Isa 14:13 "But you said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. 14 'I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'
Exo 34:12 "Watch yourself that you make no covenant with the inhabitants of the land into which you are going, or it will become a snare in your midst.
Exo 34:13 "But rather, you are to tear down their altars and smash their sacred pillars and cut down their Asherim
Exo 34:14 --for you shall not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God--
Exo 34:15 otherwise you might make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land and they would play the harlot with their gods and sacrifice to their gods, and someone might invite you to eat of his sacrifice,
Exo 34:16 and you might take some of his daughters for your sons, and his daughters might play the harlot with their gods and cause your sons also to play the harlot with their gods.
Mormons believe that God had sex with Mary and gave birth to Jesus, who as a mere man and brother of Lucifer, grew up and was good enough to attain to godhood. This is utter blasphemy. Romney claims not only to believe this, but that he, too will work himself up to godhood and his wife will be eternally pregnant as they populate their planet. This is standard teaching of LDS and Romney is very much a staunch Mormon.
So how can this earn either God's blessing for America and for Christians who vote in such filith, and how can such garbage and lies keep the hand of God's judgment at bay against America and her churches? God has already spoken against such blasphemy. For "Christians" to ASK for a polytheist cult member (and liberal), to rule over them for a token freedom is utterly grievous.
Saturday, September 15, 2012
Voting For Romney As An Evil
What will you actually be voting into office?
*Updated*
Here are several links regarding Romney's recorded stances on issues supposedly important to "conservatives" and "Christians". If you are against homosexuality and abortion, then you should vote accordingly. That is, refuse to vote for all politicians who have a pro-abortion stand INCLUDING situational abortion (rape, health, death).
*Updated*
Here are several links regarding Romney's recorded stances on issues supposedly important to "conservatives" and "Christians". If you are against homosexuality and abortion, then you should vote accordingly. That is, refuse to vote for all politicians who have a pro-abortion stand INCLUDING situational abortion (rape, health, death).
There
is no single issue of greater concern to conservatives and Christians as the
issue of life. Without it, there are no other rights, and all other political
debate becomes moot. So, you would assume there would be a distinct difference
in the two candidates on this issue.
If
you were to make that judgment solely on the basis of the candidates’ rhetoric,
you would be right. However, I can tell people I look like Mr. Universe until
I’m bluer in the face than Papa Smurf, but that doesn’t necessarily make it
true.
Actions
speak louder than words.
Barack
Obama is, arguably, the most pro-abortion President in our history. And, while
federal funding for abortion is still outlawed by Congress, he has made it
abundantly clear he would like to see that obstacle removed, so that young
mothers don’t have to be “punished for their mistakes.”
So,
where does Romney stand? Just a tad to the left, believe it or not.
His
“ObamaCare only better,” Commonwealth Care, provides for taxpayer subsidized
abortion, even in elective cases; copays are only $50. He placed members of the
Planned Parenthood Board of Directors on the board the oversees the healthcare
program, thereby guaranteeing it would remain a taxpayer subsidized
“right.”
Commonwealth
Care was instituted in 2006, roughly two years AFTER is supposed “pro-life
conversion.” He praised the legislation, and went on to appoint the Planned
Parenthood board members to the oversight committee, until it was politically
expedient to deny he had anything to do with it.
OK,
so that was more than six years ago, right? Ancient history in the world of
politics, right?
So,
let’s look at what he’s done for us lately, shall we? How about the $50,000-a-plate
fundraiser held for his benefit in May at the Florida
home of Phil Frost? For those of you who don’t know, that’s the CEO of Teva
Pharmaceuticals, which happens to be the maker of the Plan-B “morning after
pill.”
Family
Values
Recently,
President Obama was forced to admit what just about everyone already knew about
him from the get-go: he’s all in favor of gay marriage. And, like the life
issue, one would assume that putting an “R” behind Romney’s name means he’s on
the other side of the political spectrum.
And,
again, you would be very wrong. Once again, his record proves he’s to the left
of the current President on the issue.
In
2004, the Massachusetts Supreme Court created a bit of a constitutional crisis
by insisting the Legislature go back to the books and create a law that would
allow gay marriage, noting that it did not have the power or authority to “make
law.” The Legislature refused to take up the issue.
So,
Romney took it upon himself to: 1) violate the Constitution of Massachusetts,
thereby violating his Oath of Office, and 2) usher in a new “civil rights
movement” by ordering gay marriage into effect. He directed new marriage
licenses be created to eliminate words like “husband” and “wife,” replacing them
with “Party A” and “Party B.” Then he abused his power as the state’s chief
magistrate to coerce officials who didn’t comply with the “new law” he
created.
Of
course, he says the Supreme Court made him do it. But, the Supreme Court had
already acknowledged it lacked the authority to do so. And, there was a strong
precedent for a Chief Executive to tell a Supreme Court go take a flying
leap.
But,
I’m sure you would point out that the gay marriage situation in Massachusetts is
“stale news.” Perhaps Romney has seen the error of his ways, even though he has
made no indication to that effect, so let’s look again at more recent “history.”
So, let’s look at the folks he hangs out with, shall we?
Perhaps
one of the most important people working on behalf of Romney’s campaign is
uber-bundler Paul Singer. He’s a Big Money guy, right? Well, that may be true,
but did you also know Paul Singer is one of the biggest fundraisers for the gay
rights movement?
According
to Fortune
Magazine: “Since
2001, Singer has quietly given $8.6 million to nonprofits to support gay rights.
He spent another $1 million bankrolling the successful effort to pass New York’s
same-sex marriage law last year. One of his sons, Andrew, is a Massachusetts
doctor who is gay and was married in that state.”
So,
I guess supporting the guy who ushered in his son’s “right” to marry another man
was kind of a no-brainer.
End quote.
Romney not only gave Planned Parenthood money, but gave them extra power as governor. Why do you think he wouldn't do that again as president, since he already has a
track record of doing so?
Flip flopped on gun control over the years. This shows lack of integrity to "values" and conservative voters.
LDS' plan for America
Rom 3:8 And why not say (as we are slanderously reported and as some claim that we say), "Let us do evil that good may come"? Their condemnation is just.
Jos 24:14 "Now, therefore, fear the LORD and serve Him in sincerity and truth; and put away the gods which your fathers served beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. 15 "If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."
Romney serves the idols of the polytheist Mormon religion. How can we follow such a man?
If folks here are willing to compromise so much for this election cycle, I wonder what else you are willing to compromise on? Each cycle its more and more compromise; a lower and lower standard is hailed as our only choice. Next term what's worth compromising?
**Update**
(1) God does not want us to be in league with evil! The lesser of two evils is still an
evil. Instead, God wants us to embrace
what is pure and good and then simply to trust Him with our future. If the
worst candidate wins, so be it. Perhaps that is needed to wake up more of us, or
perhaps God intends to judge this nation. It would be a mistake to interfere in
either case.
(2) If we vote for a bad candidate, we will be held partly
responsible for the harm done by that candidate. This is true even if our sole
intent was to defeat a worse candidates. One evil does not justify another. It
would have been better not to vote at all.
(3) Supporting the lesser of two evils tells politicians
that it is acceptable for them to do likewise. If we won't stand for what is
right and take the necessary hits, how can we demand it of our politicians?
(4) Pragmatic voting always results in a downward trend in
the quality of candidates. Politicians won't change if they know we'll vote for
them anyway. Good candidates seldom receive the support they need to become
viable. The problem of bad choices is thereby perpetuated, and the nation
continues to deteriorate until the day when our choices will be an Adolf Hitler
or a Joseph Stalin.
(5) The argument that the lesser of two evils will buy us
time to get our act together and field better candidates is wishful thinking.
What invariably happens is people again become apathetic, and the greater evil
makes an even stronger comeback.
(6) Voting for the lesser of two evils is a defensive act.
What team ever won playing only defensively? We need to move offensively! Vote
for someone based on who they are, not on who they aren't. Vote FOR a good
candidate, not AGAINST an evil candidate. Don't stoop to their standard -demand that they rise to yours.
(7) Principled voting means making sacrifices until enough
people wake up, but it is necessary to get the ball rolling. Our nation's
Founding Fathers sacrificed much to secure our freedoms. We too will need to
make some sacrifices to regain some of those freedoms. What are we waiting for?
Delay and compromise will only deepen those sacrifices.
End quote. Source: Constitution Party of Ohio
Rom 3:8 And why not say (as we are slanderously reported and as some claim that we say), "Let us do evil that good may come"? Their condemnation is just.
Jos 24:14 "Now, therefore, fear the LORD and serve Him in sincerity and truth; and put away the gods which your fathers served beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. 15 "If it is disagreeable in your sight to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves today whom you will serve: whether the gods which your fathers served which were beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living; but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD."
Romney serves the idols of the polytheist Mormon religion. How can we follow such a man?
1Th 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit;
1Th 5:20 do not despise prophetic utterances.
1Th 5:21 But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
1Th 5:22 abstain from every form of evil.
You
say,"I'm not voting for a pastor"? I say: Since when is politics not
a spiritual issue for the Christian? Why act like the unbelievers in the voting
booth? Where is our faith to stand for Christ and not approve of a polytheist
cult member to rule over us? Did that work for Israel. Ever?
I'm
not a pastor so I guess I don't have to strive to obey Scripture in 1&2
Timothy...it doesn't apply to me, right?I'm
not wanting to be an elder so I can violate those requirments. They have nothing to do with my life, right?Since people don't send their kids to public school to become a pastor, its ok that they removed God, Scripture, and prayer out of the schools, right? Faith has nothing to do with the principles by which we vote or how we choose a candidate apparently. It also has nothing to do with education. Oh, but it does. Just check out how many Christians deny Genesis 1-3, who believe in Evolution and Psychology instead of Scripture. It has EVERYTHING to do with how we think:
Rom 12:2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect.
Eph 4:17 So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind,
Eph 4:18 being darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart;
Eph 4:19 and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.
Eph 4:20 But you did not learn Christ in this way,
Eph 4:21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught in Him, just as truth is in Jesus,
Eph 4:22 that, in reference to your former manner of life, you lay aside the old self, which is being corrupted in accordance with the lusts of deceit,
Eph 4:23 and that you be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
Eph 4:24 and put on the new self, which in the likeness of God has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.
Pragmatism has little to do with the life of a true biblical Christian.
Pro 15:16 Better is a little with the fear of the LORD Than great treasure and turmoil with it.
Psa 37:1 A Psalm of David. Do not fret because of evildoers, Be not envious toward wrongdoers.
Psa 40:4 How blessed is the man who has made the LORD his trust, And has not turned to the proud, nor to those who lapse into falsehood.
Pro 15:16 Better is a little with the fear of the LORD Than great treasure and turmoil with it.
Psa 37:1 A Psalm of David. Do not fret because of evildoers, Be not envious toward wrongdoers.
Psa 40:4 How blessed is the man who has made the LORD his trust, And has not turned to the proud, nor to those who lapse into falsehood.
Lastly, you might say,“Not
voting is voting for Obama.” I say : And what was the excuse of all the nations before
our democracy/republic? God still condemned them to judgment even without a
vote. When you vote, YOU are placing YOUR name and His next to a man, deciding he should lead us. When you vote, you aren't voting against someone, you are voting FOR someone. That's how the system has always worked. There is no box marked "No" or "Yes". Your vote is FOR someone. My vote must be earned: I will not throw it away to someone who is pathetically inept and a total compromiser and considers us mere pawns in his personal game of politics.
Last election the same arguments were used to vote for McCain, but God still hasn't changed His standard.
Don't bother going here if you don't want to see what the grave error is in voting for the "lesser of two evils".
Last election the same arguments were used to vote for McCain, but God still hasn't changed His standard.
Don't bother going here if you don't want to see what the grave error is in voting for the "lesser of two evils".
Jeremiah 17:5, “Thus says the Lord, ‘Cursed is the man who
trusts in mankind and makes flesh his strength and whose heart turns away from
the Lord.’”
If folks here are willing to compromise so much for this election cycle, I wonder what else you are willing to compromise on? Each cycle its more and more compromise; a lower and lower standard is hailed as our only choice. Next term what's worth compromising?
**Update**
"40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate" documented article.
Alan Keyes "Should I Keep Silent About Romney's Record?"
Friday, September 14, 2012
Voting For the Lesser of Two Evils As A Christian? Read This
“The Devil With His Mask On”
Josh Craddock
Persuasive Speech
© February 5, 2009
“Yes, I would campaign for the NAZIs and cast my vote for Adolf Hitler.” These words shocked me as they came out of my friend’s mouth. What shocked me more was that this young man is a conservative homeschooled Christian. Why would such an intelligent individual not only admit he would vote for Hitler, but say it with pride? I believe the problem goes deeper than misguided logic and actually explains why conservatives lost the recent Presidential election.
Today, I will expose the implications of a mentality that has become pervasive within conservative Christian circles: the view that one must vote for the lesser of two evils. I will attempt to persuade you to instead choose a righteous path in every situation. Using the 2008 Presidential election as a case study, we will learn about the lesser of two evils philosophy. After that we will analyze and weigh its justifications, and finally we will look at what our moral responsibilities are and determine a plan of action.
During the recent Presidential election, Obama’s views on abortion were well known. His support of extremist pro-abortion groups, his pledge to sign the Freedom of Choice Act, and even his support of infanticide were no secret. ("Obama's Abortion Extremism." Washington Post, Apr. 2008.)
John McCain’s views however, demonstrated a disconnect between his campaign rhetoric and his record as a Senator. Eight years after they released a report naming McCain’s presidential candidacy as a threat to the pro-life movement, ("How John McCain Threatens the Pro-Life Cause." National Right to Life News Feb. 2000.) National Right to Life reversed its position when it became clear that McCain was the 2008 Republican frontrunner and gave him a “100% pro-life” rating. ("Pro-Life Senator John McCain." National Right to Life News. Oct. 2008.) If one only listened to McCain’s rhetoric and National Right to Life’s rating, we might be led to believe that he is pro-life. However, as we look at his record, we see that he is not.
In 2005, McCain voted to provide a third of a billion dollars to fund abortion in the cases of rape and incest, authorizing taxpayer funding for more than 300,000 abortions. (U.S. Senate. U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 109th Congress - 1st Session On Passage of the Bill (H.R. 3010, As Amended). 27 Oct. 2005.) Through 2008, he continued his support for expanding Embryonic Stem Cell Research: the fatal experimentation and dissection of the tiniest boys and girls. ("McCain Says His Support Of Embryonic Stem Cell Research Is Unchanged." Medical News Today 27 Jan. 2008.) At the Saddleback Forum with Pastor Rick Warren, McCain claimed to believe that life begins at conception. (“Obama, McCain talk issues at pastor's forum." CNN 17 Aug. 2008.) Yet this is irreconcilable with his thirty year record of supporting and funding the wrongful killing of the innocent. It is clear that McCain was willing to lie in order to win our votes and we were all too ready to believe him.
Some of us did not know McCain’s pro-abortion record and voted for him in ignorance, but those of us who did justified our support for his candidacy by pointing to him as “the lesser of two evils.” We made political calculations, concluding that we had to support the pro-choice Republican in order to beat the more radically pro-choice Democrat! When did we forget that there are some issues, such as abortion, that are non-negotiable? When someone supports mass-murder, that person is automatically disqualified as a candidate that Christians can vote for with a clear conscience. Even if our candidate had won, we would have lost. So where then does this idea of “voting for the lesser of two evils” come from?
It certainly does not come from our Constitution. When citizens are obliged to support one person who doesn't represent them in order to stop another person who also doesn't represent them, they end up with a government that doesn't represent them. President John Quincy Adams enjoins us to “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”("John Quincy Adams Quotes." Think Exist Quotations. 05 Feb. 2009) Because of the “lesser of evils” mentality, voters have been manipulated into a system that effectively destroys the idea of a Republic as envisioned by our Founding Fathers.
Similarly, nowhere in the Bible does Christ say “do the lesser evil so that you might achieve good for my kingdom.” In fact, Paul warns us not to do a little evil in order to potentially achieve some future good when he says: “Why not say… ‘Let us do evil that good may result!’ Their condemnation is deserved.” (Romans 3:8. NIV.) Scripture is clear that moral considerations take precedence over political expedience.
The decision to vote for the “lesser evil” is primarily made out of fear. Fear of the devil with his mask off chases us into the arms of the devil with his mask on. But this fear is a bottomless abyss. A conservative in NAZI Germany during the 1930’s applying the “lesser of two evils” standard could say, “The Marxists are ahead of every other political party in the polls, so even though the NAZIs want to kill the Jews, I think the Marxists may end up killing more people than the NAZIs. Therefore, I will vote for Hitler.” History would eventually prove that assessment correct, since the NAZIs only murdered six million while the communists in Russia alone murdered more than twenty million. ("That abyss has no bottom." TheologyOnline. 19 Oct. 2008.) Of course we know that the German in our example could never be justified in supporting Hitler. But by the standard of fear, it is easy to see how even Christians like my friend would say that, in that situation, they would. When we no longer fear God and instead fear wicked men, what candidate wouldn’t we support, provided the alternative is worse? If our justification for supporting one evil is fear of a greater evil, then there is no depth of depravity and atrocity we will not support, as long as we fear a darker alternative. Voting for the lesser of two evils abandons the immovable moral standard of righteousness and replaces it instead with a shifting foundation of moral relativism and situational ethics.
Christ’s standard requires that we fear no one but God. Matthew 10:28 exhorts us to,“fear not them which kill the body… but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” (Matthew 10:28. KJV.) Is it truly such a terrifying thought to consider what our country would be like if one million Christians chose to reject the “lesser of two evils” philosophy and instead chose to honor God by refusing to do some evil that good might come of it? We aren't called to calculate which candidate will murder fewer innocents, we are called to “seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness.” (Matthew 6:33. NKJV.)
So how, then, are we to seek it? We know that any person who advocates and defends the intentional killing of innocents is a conspirator and an accomplice to murder, and from his record we can see that John McCain was just such a man. We also know that Christians should not support mass murderers, even if they are afraid of other mass murderers.
Instead, our standard of behavior should be based upon trusting God. ("John McCain's Tragic Pro-Abortion Record." American Right to Life. 12 Oct. 2008. ) Therefore, it is every Christian’s moral responsibility to use the authority given to them only within the boundaries of righteousness and to act in accordance with God's will.
Critics argue that voting on principle is impractical, but Christians ought to act on the wisdom of God, even if it appears foolish from a human vantage point. Nevertheless, I believe that the wisdom of God offers the only path to real success even in human terms. Christ does say that if you faithfully seek God's kingdom, “all other things will be added unto you.” (Matthew 6:33. NKJV.)
There are two benefits to voting based on principle rather than political expediency. The first and most obvious is that when a citizen votes for a Godly (though imperfect) candidate he honors God by voting morally. Second, every vote for such a candidate adds to the likelihood that he will win the election, reaping pragmatic benefits. The only reason Godly candidates lose is because too few voted for them. When we create imaginary requirements to vote for only one of the two main candidates, we submit ourselves to a system that advocates moral relativity and presses us into making excuses for unrepentantly wicked men like John McCain. (“Is it Immoral to Vote for McCain/Palin? Battle Royale XIII.” TheologyOnline. 08 Oct. 2008.)
It’s the devil’s game to give you two evil choices and act like he’s the good guy by letting you “choose” one. When given choices A and B by the devil, what would Jesus do? The answer is C. When Christ was asked by His disciples, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” Jesus answered, “Neither…” (John 9:2-3. NIV.) Given two wrong choices, he refuses both.
We are to follow Christ’s example and choose the good that God has provided to us in every choice and circumstance. When we vote we must actively look for the candidate who most effectively stands for His will. When we find such a candidate we should vote for him or write in the name. We are never forced to choose between two evils and never have been. Jesus knew this and lived it. Christ came into this world to make sure we would always have a right choice. With Him, we can stand in faith, even in the face of seemingly impossible odds, and overcome evil with good, because all things are possible through Christ.
To read more, you can explore my previous notes The Lesser of Two Evils: The Devil With His Mask On & McCain: The Other Pro-Choice Candidate.
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Taking Jesus Seriously
He also took that of Adam
and Eve's as well. One sin and they died spiritually and began to die
physically. One sin and they were thrown out of the Garden of Eden, cursed.Moreover He took my sin and
offense against Him pretty seriously too! Yeah, I'd say God takes these things seriously. We
should too.
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