John Piper
Most of the retweets were just parroting their leader. But blessedly and praise to our sovereign God, there are a few that are challenging this Piper nonsense:
@JohnPiper The prayers they've been determined to pray?
@CRKendrick sounds like pipers become a Mormon... Farewell John.
@cwhammond but seriously I would like to hear more...that statement requires a ton of unpacking. Cause it makes no sense on it's own.
@JohnPiper ...rather through the proclamation of His Holy gospel of Jesus Christ.
@JohnPiper could you explain this further?
Er.. Whut? RT @JohnPiper God saves his elect through the prayers of his elect.
- As brother Doron Gladden responds over on Facebook:
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"God saves his elect through the prayers of his elect."Your thoughts on this quote in light of Romans 1:16-18 and Romans 9:16. The question is not what is meant, what is implied, but what has been said. And what has been said is, "God saves his elect through the prayers of his elect." Let me tip my own hand. This is unbiblical, unscriptural, and although provocative, places salvation in the prerogative of men through cosignatory permissions they do not possess. Thus God ceases to become the sovereign who saves as He pleases. Prayer is not the issue, we must pray; rather, the means of God granting salvation is the issue.
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Yes indeed, I see Piper as quite the Arminian even though he "claims" to be a Calvinist and hold to the TULIP and 5 Points of the doctrines of Grace. Increasingly it is obvious Piper is man-centered, NOT Christ centered. Notice Piper ignores the Gospel: - Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.Rom 1:17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
- Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
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