From the historian’s point of view, the greatest finds are writing tablets. Some are made of wood, written on in ink. Others are an ancient type of etch-a-sketch – where a wooden pad was inlaid with wax, which Romans inscribed and then wiped clear; heavy-handed writers scratched down into the wood, leaving a permanent record of their thoughts. The fine cursive Latin is yet to be completely translated. But already archaeologists have turned up shopping lists, party invitations, a contract for the sale of a slave girl and another contract selling a five-acre wood in Kent. Most important of all, the documents will reveal the names of ancient Roman Londoners. Even though the Romans occupied the city for nearly 400 years, only 14 names of Londinium residents have been discovered.
~ The Telegraph, UK
I believe in God. I also believe God. “Discernment is not simply a matter of telling the difference between what is right and wrong; rather it is the difference between right and almost right.” -Charles Spurgeon. Scripture is my authority for all things regarding to life and godliness. 2 Cor.10:5 We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ
Thursday, April 11, 2013
Exploitation By Rick Warren
I knew this would happen. A false teacher will use anything to promote attacks against the Truth.
"It really shows how threatened Warren and his church and supporters must feel that there are Christians in the world who dare to criticize his theological teachings. To exploit the death of his own son, just four days after his death, and to use it to make an emotional appeal to silence his critics is a desperate and despicable act."
~ Jonathon Cousar,World Review Weekend
"It really shows how threatened Warren and his church and supporters must feel that there are Christians in the world who dare to criticize his theological teachings. To exploit the death of his own son, just four days after his death, and to use it to make an emotional appeal to silence his critics is a desperate and despicable act."
~ Jonathon Cousar,World Review Weekend
Wednesday, April 10, 2013
Peace
What's your definition of peace? Absence of turmoil? Things going your way? Things you can easily handle without much pain involved?
That's happiness, not peace, because its predicated on your circumstances. This means you will never be truly happy because you've already seen the reality that bad things happen and circumstances change all the time.
You can't control life.
Do you really want peace?
There are answers.
That's happiness, not peace, because its predicated on your circumstances. This means you will never be truly happy because you've already seen the reality that bad things happen and circumstances change all the time.
You can't control life.
Do you really want peace?
There are answers.
Truth
Rom 3:9 What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin;
Rom 3:10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE;
Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;
Rom 3:12 ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE."
Rom 3:13 "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS";
Rom 3:14 "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS";
Rom 3:15 "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD,
Rom 3:16 DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS,
Rom 3:17 AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN."
Rom 3:18 "THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES."
Rom 3:19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
Rom 3:20 because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.
Ever consider what this means?
Guess what? Not one person alive is innocent of sin before the thrice holy God. We are all guilty of breaking His law. He is,after all, the Creator of the entire universe. And no, He didn't create sin or evil; those things cannot be created. They are violations of His commands, rebelling against His authority, and it started in the Garden of Eden back in Genesis 3.
The world is a dark place. But don't blame God. He created everything good. It was man who sinned and it is man who continues today.
There is an answer. Are you ready to hear it?
Looking for the Truth?
Are you truly looking for the Truth? If so, I would encourage you to go to the Bible which itself is fully True and faithful, because its Author is Faithful and True. God does not lie. So if you are ready to hear the reality of where you are at and what the problem is, along with what to do, then the Bible is available to you to search whole-heartedly.
If you haven't come to the end of yourself, if you think you are the standard for determining what is true or untrue, then you aren't open to what the God of Truth clearly states in Scripture. But be warned: you stand condemned before God in your rebellion and sin against Him, and because God is holy and just, He must deal with you and your sin.
Don't fool yourself into thinking you are a good person, because you aren't the standard of what is good. Rather, you are bad. We all are. That's because we all fall short of the glory of God; He is the one who, being all good, has defined what is truly good and bad, right and wrong. Your standard of yourself is far too low and you deceive yourself.
If you haven't come to the end of yourself, if you think you are the standard for determining what is true or untrue, then you aren't open to what the God of Truth clearly states in Scripture. But be warned: you stand condemned before God in your rebellion and sin against Him, and because God is holy and just, He must deal with you and your sin.
Don't fool yourself into thinking you are a good person, because you aren't the standard of what is good. Rather, you are bad. We all are. That's because we all fall short of the glory of God; He is the one who, being all good, has defined what is truly good and bad, right and wrong. Your standard of yourself is far too low and you deceive yourself.
Tuesday, April 09, 2013
Some secret sin has long been eating its way to the heart!
(J.R. Miller)
"You have placed our iniquities before You--our secret sins in the light of Your presence." Psalm 90:8
It does not take a rifle-bullet to destroy a life. Men have died from little pin-wounds.
Some shepherds once saw an eagle soar out from a crag. It flew majestically far up into the sky, but by and by became unsteady in its motions, and began to waver in its flight. At length one wing drooped and then the other, and the poor bird struggled vainly for a moment, and then fell swiftly to the ground. The shepherds sought the fallen bird, and found that a little serpent had fastened itself upon it while it rested on the crag. The eagle did not know that the serpent was there. But the reptile gnawed in through the feathers, and while the proud monarch was sweeping through the air, the serpent's fangs were thrust into its flesh, and the eagle came reeling down into the dust.
This illustrates the story of many a human life. For a time they seem quite promising; then suddenly they struggle and fall. Some secret sin has long been eating its way to the heart, and at last the proud life lies soiled and dishonored in the dust!
We need to be ever on our watch against these treacherous and insidious perils, these little, secret sins--which, unperceived, work death in the soul!
"Be sure your sin will find you out!" Numbers 32:23
Obama: Living Like A King
Obama continues living the life of a king while the rest of us suffer with a bad economy and a potential war with N. Korea along with hostilities with Iran who also wants to go rogue with nukes.
While we're under a "sequester" that doesn't seem to affect Obama's lavish lifestyle in any way. Tonight marks the tenth exclusive and lavish concert paid for by us surfs (aka tax payers) given at the White House, as Keith Koffler reports.
"And with this evening’s event, the performances are officially part of the “sequester-free zone” at the White House. As is well known, the daily White House tours did not make the cut." - Koffler reports in his article.
What sequester? Its a party life in the White House for the Obamas!
As Keith Koffler also reported:
"The tours for the public may be canceled, but the fun continues at the White House, where President Obama and First Lady Michelle are indulging in exclusive entertainment even as furloughs begin to hit the White House itself....Sequesters, it would seem, are for little people."
Two vacations this year already, movies, celebrities,and concerts, shooting hoops, and golfing.
What's a little thing like Kim Jong-un saying N. Korea is ready to strike either our allies or us tomorrow? What's a little thing like Iran wanting to go rogue itself regarding nuclear weapons?
Naw. Fore!
While we're under a "sequester" that doesn't seem to affect Obama's lavish lifestyle in any way. Tonight marks the tenth exclusive and lavish concert paid for by us surfs (aka tax payers) given at the White House, as Keith Koffler reports.
"And with this evening’s event, the performances are officially part of the “sequester-free zone” at the White House. As is well known, the daily White House tours did not make the cut." - Koffler reports in his article.
What sequester? Its a party life in the White House for the Obamas!
As Keith Koffler also reported:
"The tours for the public may be canceled, but the fun continues at the White House, where President Obama and First Lady Michelle are indulging in exclusive entertainment even as furloughs begin to hit the White House itself....Sequesters, it would seem, are for little people."
Two vacations this year already, movies, celebrities,and concerts, shooting hoops, and golfing.
What's a little thing like Kim Jong-un saying N. Korea is ready to strike either our allies or us tomorrow? What's a little thing like Iran wanting to go rogue itself regarding nuclear weapons?
Naw. Fore!
Answers In Genesis Fail the Biblical Test: playing God by justifying murder
According to Answers In Genesis:
The Word of God makes it clear: human life begins at the moment of fertilization.* Any action aimed at ending that life before birth constitutes abortion.
Is abortion ever justifiable? What if the mother’s life is genuinely endangered by continuing her pregnancy?
Suppose a woman fourteen weeks pregnant is diagnosed with a very aggressive leukemia....
The doctor therefore advises immediate abortion in order to begin chemotherapy and give the mother the best chance of survival.
Here, the physician has the choice of losing either one life or two. The chance of saving the baby is essentially zero, and continuing the pregnancy would put the mother at deadly risk. While this sort of situation is extremely rare, it does happen. Abortion in this circumstance is an effort to spare one life at the expense of another and therefore does not violate biblical principles.
End quote.
This is absolutely anti-biblical. Its playing God with a human life, considering the value of that life based SOLELY on the odds of viability. This is no different than what the abortionists do. This is certainly not a pro-life stance. Nor is it a pro-life principle. Let's remember that abortion IS murder.
This is Circumstantial Murder. And AIG is justifying it. They are quickly losing any credibility they've had and are proving to be about pragmatism instead of Scripture ("Genesis" speaks about murder and NEVER justifies it).
A few weeks ago AIG also supported the horrific "Bible" series on the History channel.
They have clearly shown they are pragmatic and not holding to Scripture above everything, and certainly not adhering to the absolute Sovereignty of God and thus trusting HIM with the outcome of a right stand of not killing an unborn baby while its mother has a health issue. Nor is it trusting God's way of drawing and saving people by the faithful proclamation of the Gospel but merely appeal to the world through its ways by watering down the Scriptures and making it entertaining.
I praise God and pray for a more faithful ministry like Institute for Creation Research that continually hold fast to the clear Word and are far more serious about biblical doctrine and having THAT direct their message and actions. Unlike AIG.
Apostates
Possessing the Treasure with Mike Ratliff. On Apostates: (from 1/30/12)
Excerpts:
It must have been about four or five years ago that I was in a discussion on this blog after I had written a piece about some of the confusing things coming from the ministry of Dr. John Piper and others. I made the comment to one of my friends that I thought that Dr. Piper needed to show the fruits of repentance for some of the things he had said and done or he would eventually be considered an apostate. Someone not in that conversation (a bottom feeder or troll??) jumped all over that statement and condemned me for calling Dr. Piper an apostate which he refused to consider because (according to him) an apostate is one who drops all pretense of Christianity and walks away from his faith. Using that reasoning those who continue to claim to be Christians even though they preach heresies such as Modalism (T.D. Jakes for instance) or deny the necessity of the Atonement and Justification by Faith alone and the reality of Hell (Rob Bell for instance) or those who insist on Christianity that is forever changing according to whatever society demands or wants (pragmatism) and insist that doctrine is not needed, but works is what God wants (Rick Warren for instance) are Christians along with the Roman Catholics, Mormans, and anyone else who claims that they are.
Excerpts:
It must have been about four or five years ago that I was in a discussion on this blog after I had written a piece about some of the confusing things coming from the ministry of Dr. John Piper and others. I made the comment to one of my friends that I thought that Dr. Piper needed to show the fruits of repentance for some of the things he had said and done or he would eventually be considered an apostate. Someone not in that conversation (a bottom feeder or troll??) jumped all over that statement and condemned me for calling Dr. Piper an apostate which he refused to consider because (according to him) an apostate is one who drops all pretense of Christianity and walks away from his faith. Using that reasoning those who continue to claim to be Christians even though they preach heresies such as Modalism (T.D. Jakes for instance) or deny the necessity of the Atonement and Justification by Faith alone and the reality of Hell (Rob Bell for instance) or those who insist on Christianity that is forever changing according to whatever society demands or wants (pragmatism) and insist that doctrine is not needed, but works is what God wants (Rick Warren for instance) are Christians along with the Roman Catholics, Mormans, and anyone else who claims that they are.
Of course then there are those fellas (Steven Furtick, and James MacDonald for instance) who are all about erecting “cool” idolatrous worship which is really all about themselves and they sell this product to other wannabe preacherboys who want to be rich and famous like them. Do you see the common denominator in all this? Is any of what these people do about God and his glory? Is it about the edification of the Body of Christ through the genuine worship of God for his glory alone? No, it is about making money and becoming famous while fleecing the sheep who have been duped into thinking its all about the gospel. Have you noticed that these people never talk about the gospel without talking about money?
Where do apostates come from? According to God’s Word, some are revealed through persecution (Matthew 24:9-10; Luke 8:13). Notice these are not genuine Christians who went bad. No, they were never genuine to begin with. In 2 Timothy 4:10, for instance, Paul talks about Demas who forsook him because of his love for this present world. Demas had a worldly spirit. Apostates are more worldly-minded than they are concerned for the glory of God. In 1 John 2:19 the Apostle John makes it clear that Apostates were never genuine believers and their departure, whether that is to walk away from the faith or into a false form of Christianity (same thing), reveals their disingenuousness.
However, let us be clear. Genuine believers do not become Apostates. Here are some passages for your meditation......
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1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 3 men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. (1 Timothy 4:1-3 NASB)
Apostates are not simply those who walk away from Christianity and become irreligious or become a Muslim or Hindu or whatever. No, an Apostate can remain in an organized so-called “Christian Church” and be very religious and remain quite active in the “ministry” of deceiving as many people as he or she can. I mentioned it earlier in this post. Money is one of the motivating factors. There is also fame and celebrity. All of that feeds the ego of these people whose ministry is the source of their idolatrous ministry to themselves.
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Please go here for the FULL article with several Scripture passages on what an apostate is.
You will note this was written over a year ago. What has happened with Piper, Warren, etc? Have they shown signs for repentance? No. Both Piper and Warren called for Christians to pray (and Warren included fasting) that God would give a good pope to the Roman Catholic Church! The pope's titles and roles are by definition absolute heresy and idolatrous. Such a call by these two men show they are apostate: they validate a blasphemous church that denies the Gospel that saves, denies Justification by faith alone, worships a dead woman, and denies the atonement as the full and perfect payment by Jesus on behalf of sinners, among other things (the list is quite long where RCC is in grave error).
Moreover Piper also "clarified" his false gospel (in attempt to justify the salvation found in the Roman Catholic Church). Here's what he said in his "clarification":
The reason for saying, “when consistently worked out,” is because I think it is possible to inconsistently deny the truth of imputation while embracing other aspects of the gospel (blood bought forgiveness, and propitiation, for example), through which God mercifully saves.
I am thankful that God is willing to save us even when our grasp of the gospel may be partial or defective. None of us has a comprehensive or perfect grasp of it.
End quote.
The reason for saying, “when consistently worked out,” is because I think it is possible to inconsistently deny the truth of imputation while embracing other aspects of the gospel (blood bought forgiveness, and propitiation, for example), through which God mercifully saves.
I am thankful that God is willing to save us even when our grasp of the gospel may be partial or defective. None of us has a comprehensive or perfect grasp of it.
End quote.
Does that sound like a man who has repented and coming back to the Truth, or away from the Truth as he justifies embracing a false or defective gospel can save?
In contrast he is what solid Bible teacher and expositor John MacArthur said:"The gospel we present has eternal consequences. If it is the true gospel, it can direct men and women into the everlasting kingdom. If it is a corrupted message, it can give unsaved people false hope while consigning them to eternal damnation. This is not a trivial matter for theologians to speculate on. It is an issue every lay person must understand and get right. "
No, Piper is definitely going apostate as he has released himself from the constraints of accountability by a local church and can now continue freely down the road of destruction.
In contrast he is what solid Bible teacher and expositor John MacArthur said:"The gospel we present has eternal consequences. If it is the true gospel, it can direct men and women into the everlasting kingdom. If it is a corrupted message, it can give unsaved people false hope while consigning them to eternal damnation. This is not a trivial matter for theologians to speculate on. It is an issue every lay person must understand and get right. "
No, Piper is definitely going apostate as he has released himself from the constraints of accountability by a local church and can now continue freely down the road of destruction.
Monday, April 08, 2013
Encouragement
And instead of
teaching God and getting people into the Word of God, most churches are trying
to patch up the unstable by giving them human solutions and worst of all,
psychology of which even psychologists say it has no answers.
There's only one
resting place for the soul and that's in God. We stand fast in the Lord. We
stand firm in the Lord. Back to verse 1
where he said that. Martin Luther said to Erasmus, "Your thoughts of God
are too human." And Paul here is saying what the poet wrote, "I cannot
know why suddenly the storm should rage so fiercely round me in its wrath, but
this I know, God watches all my path." And as a result, be anxious for
nothing. Be anxious for nothing. Stop worrying. Don't get knocked over by trials and temptations and the fact that your
little world isn't absolutely perfectly the way you wish it was. That's a form
of unconscious blasphemy. Don't worry.
Obama Twitter Account: that's not him any more but a third party group
"The 29,503,030 people who follow Barack Obama's Twitter account might see his picture, see his name, see that little blue verified account badge and think they're following the President — but it's not him. All of the president's named social media accounts, in fact, have been handed over to a non-partisan, not-for-profit group that isn't overly concerned if you didn't notice the transition. As the first sitting President with a Twitter account, the murky handover raises questions that didn't exist ten years ago — can a politician legally hand over his valuable online identity to an outside group? is it ethical? — and makes clear federal regulators are unprepared to answer them."
"The letter of the law notwithstanding, there's clearly a question of whether or not the seamless transition from an organization directly linked to the president to one that is wholly independent and reliant on donations is ethical."
~ The Atlantic Wire
MSNBC Host Melissa Harris-Perry Says Your Kids Do NOT Belong to You, But to the State
This is classic Socialism/Communism.
Report by Infowars:
“We have to break through our private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families,” says the professor of political science at Tulane University, where she is founding director of the Anna Julia Cooper Project on Gender, Race, and Politics in the South. Kids belong to whole communities, she insists, and once we realize this we’ll make “better investments” in government indoctrination of children.
The report states in part:
“Like most people of his ideological bent, Obama either cannot or will not distinguish between society — which is created through peaceful commerce and other forms of private cooperation — and the state — an anti-social artifact built on conquest, coercion, and confiscation of wealth,” writesWilliam Grigg.
In fact, as Gary Allen noted, it is quite natural.
End quote.
Scripture states that children belong to their parents. Most people understand this basic concept of family, unless they have been indoctrinated by socialism and statism.
Report by Infowars:
“We have to break through our private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families,” says the professor of political science at Tulane University, where she is founding director of the Anna Julia Cooper Project on Gender, Race, and Politics in the South. Kids belong to whole communities, she insists, and once we realize this we’ll make “better investments” in government indoctrination of children.
The report states in part:
“Like most people of his ideological bent, Obama either cannot or will not distinguish between society — which is created through peaceful commerce and other forms of private cooperation — and the state — an anti-social artifact built on conquest, coercion, and confiscation of wealth,” writesWilliam Grigg.
In fact, as Gary Allen noted, it is quite natural.
“If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of superrich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all,” he wrote. “Instead it becomes the logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs. Communism, or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.”
End quote.
Scripture states that children belong to their parents. Most people understand this basic concept of family, unless they have been indoctrinated by socialism and statism.
Weatherman Terrorist Bill Ayers Confirms WND Correct Report About Obama Fundraising
Worldnetdaily has reported:
Weatherman domestic terrorist Bill Ayers is now confirming what the White House has previously denied – that he held a fundraiser in his living room for Barack Obama.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bill-ayers-confirms-what-obama-has-denied/#V5DvxTDmA4lx5QPX.99
Weatherman domestic terrorist Bill Ayers is now confirming what the White House has previously denied – that he held a fundraiser in his living room for Barack Obama.
That 1995 meeting was said to have launched Obama’s political career.
In an October 2008 interview on MSNBC host Chris Matthews’ show, Robert Gibbs, a spokesman for Obama’s presidential campaign, categorically denied the fundraiser was ever held.
Matthews asked Gibbs: “Did [Ayers] have a fundraiser for [Obama], or not?”
Gibbs, who would become the White House spokesman, replied: “No, he did not have a fundraiser for our candidate as he said ten seconds ago.”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bill-ayers-confirms-what-obama-has-denied/#V5DvxTDmA4lx5QPX.99
Lady Margaret Thatcher Quotes
Lady Margaret Thatcher passed away yesterday. Here are some of her famous pithy quotes posted at Hello Magazine:
"I started out in life with two great advantages: No money and good parents."
"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't."
"If you set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you would achieve nothing."
"I started out in life with two great advantages: No money and good parents."
"Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't."
"If you set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you would achieve nothing."
Is Your College A Christian College?
Is Westmont College a Christian college?
Not when it teaches evolution or promotes Eastern Mysticism.
Go here to see if your college of choice is truly a Christian school.
Here are some helpful questions to ask as you search for a biblical Christian school (if you are truly looking for a CHRISTIAN education):
1. Does your school believe that the Bible and psychology can be integrated?
2. Is Theistic Evolution permitted to be taught as a viable option in the interpretation of Genesis chapter 1?
3. What is your school's doctrinal postion? Is it consistent in all departments or do they deny in practice what they claim in their statement of faith (see #2)?
4. Does your school teach consistently the plenary, inerrant inspiration of the Holy Spirit of the original text of the Holy Bible?
Is Evolution a neutral and optional view for a Christian? I answer here.
Not when it teaches evolution or promotes Eastern Mysticism.
Go here to see if your college of choice is truly a Christian school.
Here are some helpful questions to ask as you search for a biblical Christian school (if you are truly looking for a CHRISTIAN education):
1. Does your school believe that the Bible and psychology can be integrated?
2. Is Theistic Evolution permitted to be taught as a viable option in the interpretation of Genesis chapter 1?
3. What is your school's doctrinal postion? Is it consistent in all departments or do they deny in practice what they claim in their statement of faith (see #2)?
4. Does your school teach consistently the plenary, inerrant inspiration of the Holy Spirit of the original text of the Holy Bible?
Is Evolution a neutral and optional view for a Christian? I answer here.
Saturday, April 06, 2013
Homofascists: the term that fits the homosexual agend
DefendProclaimtheFaith.org, a blogger wrote, “In light of all the information that I already posted and current information in this digest, I believe I may have coined a phrase. I am no longer titling the information as homosexual but homofascism. … I am going to use it because it fits this movement.”
It’s not hard to recognize. It’s when:
Homosexual activists charge the medical establishment with “homophobia” for reporting that people living the homosexual lifestyle have a much higher prevalence of HIV and other STDs, and yet using that very same information to complain the group’s health issues are ignored.
Or when a 14-year-old receives death threats for defending traditional/natural marriage.
Or when those who advocate defining marriage as between a man and a woman face intimidation, vandalism, racial scapegoating, blacklisting, loss of employment, economic hardships, angry protests, violence, at least one death threat, and gross expressions of anti-religious bigotry....
Or a pastor is threatened with death for speaking against special protections based on sexual orientation.
~Wordnetdaily for the entire article go to Worldnetdaily
Thursday, April 04, 2013
Discernment Naysayers Revisited
Due to Tim Challies coming against discernment bloggers yet again* (this time in relation to Sovereign Grace Ministries, CJ Mahaney, and the lawsuit against Mahaney and his church for not dealing with sexual abusers--go here for info), I wanted to re-post what I wrote in response to Challies same accusations against us 4 years ago. It still is just as relevent today as it was back then.
(*See my update at the bottom of this article)
(*See my update at the bottom of this article)
April 27, 2009:
I read with relief Daniel's post *on his response to Tim Challies' arrogant
swipe at all Discernment Ministries. While some have taken Challies on, some
took the middle road (as usual). Daniel didn't do that. Here are some excerpts:
Quote:
Quote:
In his highly inflammatory post, Challies utilizes zero Scripture to support his case and through analogy with the secular world accuses watchblogs or discernment blogs as utilizing evil as entertainment, merely because such watchblogs act as watchmen in portraying the errors within the professing visible Church. The irony that Challies is, in this one post of his, doing exactly what he accuses the watchblogs as doing (portraying the errors within the professing visible Church) is seemingly lost on him as it has been written:
Take note of the irony here: what we just read was a blogger concerned about watchbloggers watchblogging, issuing a very pointed criticism against watchbloggers in general, but in point of fact was watchblogging about other watchbloggers on his own blog. [5]
Whether rightly or wrongly, criticism comes to all of us, and to attack the act of discernment and discernment ministries themselves because criticism occurs is utterly fallacious. In fact, since Challies is discerning the watchblogs here, why isn't this act of his done in the flesh?
The second links to New Evangelical Frank Turk's article that discernment is to be exercised within the local church. Since discernment ministries are meant to inform people of error and in so doing contributing to the Great Commission by warning the flock of possible soul-destroying error, Turk's peculiar ecclesia localis centrism logically leads to the conclusion that evangelism is to be done only within the Local Church! This is simply untenable, and therefore Turk's view of the Local Church is in error.
Last of all, it will suffice that Turk is violating his own advice since this article of his is not posted within the context of the Local Church anyway, not to mention Turk is not a pastor or elder so he has disqualified himself on his own principles!
Challies finished by basically repeating the essence of his initial post. In his own words:
But a blog that has as its bread and butter exposing error in the church, and especially error that is completely decontextualized and irrelevant to any of its readers, is a blog I think we ought to avoid. A Christian’s thoughts ought to be dominated by “whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things” (Philippians 4:8). As I said last Monday, “Do I really need to read and to know about the seedy underbelly of the church, when such things happen thousands of miles away, among people I will never meet and in places I will never be? Such news is plenty entertaining, but it is useless to me. It does nothing to further my faith or to cause me to grow in godliness.”
How does Challies know whether a person is operating a watchblog because he is concerned over others, or because he wants to destroy others or entertain others with evil? He doesn't! Also, we shouldn't confuse the motives of the writers with the motives of the readers. If people read it because they want to be entertained by evil, the blame should be placed on the reader not the sharer of information, unless it can be proven that that was the motive of the sharer in posting it also.
Challies with his view of being loving and positivity has manifests his New Evangelical convictions and Challies with his view of being loving and positivity has manifests his New Evangelical convictions and has done damage to the cause of Christ, with legitimate discernment ministries de-legitimized and the enemies of the Truth emboldened....
End quote. For the full context please go here: Source. (emphasis, mine)
My observations:
Discernment is seen as a negative gift and therefore is one of the most unwanted and unwelcomed gifts from God by those who claim Christ. Why would a Christ-follower reject God's gift?
Discernment is judged by self-proclaimed non-judgmentalists as judgmental.
Discernment is seen as unloving, but it is precisely because of God's agape that He has gifted some of His children and therefore churches, with it. It is for their protection, as the Great Shepherd of the Sheep should be doing. Likewise a true Undershepherd as well, should appreciate and utilize the Discernment gifts to help aid in the protection of his flock. (You ought to see the persecution of those who have this gift--most wouldn't be able to stand up under such furious fight from "christians"--we're the first to feel the rejection).
People who have a distain for discernment like to determine how the discernment is to operate. These people don’t have the gift themselves, but they sure want to decide how and when and with whom and what it will be used for. Isn’t that hypocritical? Discernment naysayers desire to dictated and control those with the gift, and we know what that means: SHUT UP and SHUT DOWN the gift. It is the height of pride to neglect and reject discernment, for it is a spiritual gift God gives to protect His children and to honor His Word.
Challies, Turk, and their defenders should read what GOD Says about the gifts HE gives:
1Co 12:5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord;
1Co 12:6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.
1Co 12:7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
1Co 12:11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
1Co 12:17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell?
1Co 12:18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose.
1Co 12:21 The eye cannot say to the hand, "I have no need of you," nor again the head to the feet, "I have no need of you."
1Co 12:22 On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,
1Co 12:23 and on those parts of the body that we think less honorable we bestow the greater honor, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty,
1Co 12:24 which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honor to the part that lacked it,
1Co 12:25 that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.
1Co 12:26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honored, all rejoice together.
The Discernment Naysayers ARE saying "I have no need of you", when GOD says, "Oh yes you do!". Why do they quarrel with their Maker? And where is the reverence of the Sovereignty of God they say they hold to?
I find it interesting that Challies denies the right, even the necessity of being “negative” for everyone but himself. This is hypocrisy. Apparently only he can determine what is useful for folks and what is not. Now, why is he the determiner of these things? Could it be that he thinks higher of himself and his influence than he ought? I say yes he does.
Rejecting God’s discernment gift is one of the reasons so many people have been captivated by Rick Warren, Mark Driscoll, Paul Tripp, the Emergent Church Movement, the Seeker/Pagan Friendly movement, Eastern Mysticism, Contemplative prayers, prayer labyrinths, etc.
While Challies makes a sweeping smear of Discernment sites that actually help others obey Scripture, he himself embraces the very evil we seek to caution others about.
Challies has applauded Donald Whitney and his book on “Spiritual Disciplines”. While Challies questioned the use of Richard Foster (a New Ager), he managed to swallow the pill despite the poison and then write highly of it. In other words, Challies finds a lot he likes in the book (calling certain actions "spiritual disciplines" even if its not biblically supported, or moreover, promotes a false teacher like Foster), yet he finds little use for Discernment websites that caution against such error as New Ageism, Romanism, carnality, etc?
I wonder if these Discernment Naysayers would slam Paul, John the Baptist, John, Jesus, Jude, or Peter for being so negative? Are we not to follow their example as they followed Christ’s?
2 Tim. 2: 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 2Tim 2: 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have wandered away from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some.
2Tim. 4: 14 Alexander the metalworker did me a great deal of harm. The Lord will repay him for what he has done. 15 You too should be on your guard against him, because he strongly opposed our message.
3 John 9 I wrote to the church, but Diotrephes, who loves to be first,will have nothing to do with us. 10 So if I come, I will call attention to what he is doing, gossiping maliciously about us. Not satisfied with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers. He also stops those who want to do so and puts them out of the church. 3John 11 Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good.
In essence, Challies is decrying what these men wrote. And it should be clear: these letters were circulated to multiple churches. In addition they became even more public as they were Scripture!
See the Sacred Sandwich for more examples of how today’s “evangelical Christians” Discernment Naysayers would take on the apostles or Christ Himself.
So what it comes down to is this: positive = godly, negative = fleshly. Who decided this and how do they define these things, given the "negative" statements made about specific people in Scripture? Or is it ok only if the person is dead? Do we have a new secret standard God to only a few?
End quote.
“It seems to me in this Post-Modern “Christianity”, that people are very willing to put up with error (as Scripture defines it), but are quick to slam, insult, and aim shut down those who expose such error. They shoot the messenger.Why don’t they get behind the message at least? Why do they reject a spiritual gift and its benefits, yet DEFEND false teachers and those who promote them? God says "no lie is of the truth".
Those whom God has gifted with discernment often are looked upon as a bother, a thorn in the side of many. The gift of discernment doesn't fit into the Post-Modern thinking in today's "evangelical" circles.
Those whom God has gifted with discernment often are looked upon as a bother, a thorn in the side of many. The gift of discernment doesn't fit into the Post-Modern thinking in today's "evangelical" circles.
We are seen as negative, simply because we are showing the difference between truth and error, and are therefore unwilling to abide with the error.
We are black and white, because God is black and white.
Truth has no common ground with error. God demands purity in doctrine and practice. Those that want to reach a wide audience to gain applause, to sell books, to get the numbers, will seek to quiet people whom God uses to expose the error. Its likely that such people have accepted error (under the guise of “tolerance” and “love”) and therefore are personally guilty themselves. The light of Truth also shines on them and they don’t like it.”
As Spurgeon said in "A Reply To Our Critics" in "The Downgrade Controversy":
As Spurgeon said in "A Reply To Our Critics" in "The Downgrade Controversy":
Quote:We are grateful to the editor of Word and Work for speaking out so plainly. He says:—
"In The Sword and the Trowel for the present month Mr. Spurgeon gives no uncertain sound concerning departures from the faith. His exposure of the dishonesty which, under the cover of orthodoxy, assails the very foundations of faith is opportune in the interests of truth. No doubt, like a faithful prophet in like evil times, he will be called a 'troubler of Israel,' and already we have noticed he has been spoken of as a pessimist; but any such attempts to lessen the weight of his testimony are only certain to make it more effective. When a strong sense of duty prompts public speech it will be no easy task to silence it.
"The preachers of false doctrine dislike nothing more than the premature detection of their doings. Only give them time enough to prepare men's minds for the reception of their 'new views,' and they are confident of success. They have had too much time already, and any who refuse to speak out now must be held to be 'partakers of their evil deeds.' As Mr. Spurgeon says, 'A little plain-speaking would do a world of good just now. These gentlemen desire to be let alone. They want no noise raised. Of course thieves hate watch-dogs, and love darkness. It is time that somebody should spring his rattle, and call attention to the way in which God is being robbed of his glory and man of his hope.'
End quote.
"In The Sword and the Trowel for the present month Mr. Spurgeon gives no uncertain sound concerning departures from the faith. His exposure of the dishonesty which, under the cover of orthodoxy, assails the very foundations of faith is opportune in the interests of truth. No doubt, like a faithful prophet in like evil times, he will be called a 'troubler of Israel,' and already we have noticed he has been spoken of as a pessimist; but any such attempts to lessen the weight of his testimony are only certain to make it more effective. When a strong sense of duty prompts public speech it will be no easy task to silence it.
"The preachers of false doctrine dislike nothing more than the premature detection of their doings. Only give them time enough to prepare men's minds for the reception of their 'new views,' and they are confident of success. They have had too much time already, and any who refuse to speak out now must be held to be 'partakers of their evil deeds.' As Mr. Spurgeon says, 'A little plain-speaking would do a world of good just now. These gentlemen desire to be let alone. They want no noise raised. Of course thieves hate watch-dogs, and love darkness. It is time that somebody should spring his rattle, and call attention to the way in which God is being robbed of his glory and man of his hope.'
1Jn 2:15 "Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. "
Daniel Chew once again deals with Challie's continued attacks on discernment bloggers. He says in part:
"Regardless, the main issue is that Tim Challies has decided that the best way to take revenge against the person who wronged him, is to condemn "discernment ministries" without distinction or exception, and smear them with the same broad brush as being essentially Pharisees...."
Challies and Discernment Bloggers: his rant continues as does his hypocrisy
It appears that Tim Challies is once again slamming, even slandering discernment bloggers.(Go here for Daniel Chew's recent article on Challies' continued attack on discernment blogs) The watchman, the discerner of discernment bloggers, the critic of critics, the bloggers of bloggers, Challies is this time up in arms about criticism he has gotten. No names of persons or blogs are given; no facts with evidence; only a general swipe at them as bullies, fear mongers, and liars because he says so.
Challies' Hypocrisy:
Challies' Hypocrisy:
"The Christian’s attitude
toward others, especially in difficult times, is to be one of optimism rather
than pessimism, hope rather than doubt. We, of all people, should be slow to
put aside hope and belief. This means that I owe it to C.J.Mahaney, to SGM and
to those who have levelled allegations to believe the best about them, to hope all
things for them."
~Challies on the sexual abuse
charges against Sovereign Grace Ministries/church headed by CJ Mahaney (the case is going to court; go here for more info)
Yet the standard is different
for discernment bloggers who take his public opinions, actions, etc. and test
them against Scripture:
"The second lesson is
one I am surprised I did not see before: Discernment
bloggers often operate by fear...The discernment
blogs are too often marked by neither truth nor love. " ~Challies
Indeed, Challies plays the
victim when he's at fault for his own actions and double standards. He has repeatedly given credence to enemies of the Cross (Rick Warren, Mark Driscoll Ann Voskamp, Donald Witney), shows little anger toward the nastiness going
on at SGM, and then complains when his error is revealed by the light of truth.
The hypocrisy of Challies is
that while he continues to slam discernment bloggers by slander (he claims they operate on
fear and lies--accusations he doesn't back up in any specific way--just accusations of nameless people), he himself wrote a book on discernment. He allows himself to be the discernment
blogger of discernment bloggers. He is unwilling to assign motives and indeed
gives wide grace to the SGM sexual abuse charges ( or false teacher Rick Warren for example), but is generous with his
assigning motives and allegations against discernment bloggers that he doesn't
like. He is unwilling to give the same grace and thus withhold his opinion and
slander that he demands of everyone re: himself. That's the epitome of
hypocrisy.
If Challies is upset with bloggers exposing his error, then he should either stop his error or stop reading about himself. Perhaps he's in the wrong field of choice. Liberals want to consort with the enemy of Christ and then complain with those in Christ expose their disloyalty toward HIM and His flock. You can't play with fire and then complain when the fire department shows up with hoses turned on and dowsing the entire house. Its your fault for playing with the matches and starting a fire.
If Challies is upset with bloggers exposing his error, then he should either stop his error or stop reading about himself. Perhaps he's in the wrong field of choice. Liberals want to consort with the enemy of Christ and then complain with those in Christ expose their disloyalty toward HIM and His flock. You can't play with fire and then complain when the fire department shows up with hoses turned on and dowsing the entire house. Its your fault for playing with the matches and starting a fire.
Challies' standard for everyone
else but himself is hypocritical. Did he personally try to approach those he
claims have slandered him? Does he see into their hearts to see if they have love or not? He knows their motives? Did he verify the facts? Oh, he had them from their
website? Cannot the same be said for those bloggers he's railing against? So
how is his violation of his own standrd ok? If a person consorts with false
teachers, they have invited rightful criticism. 2John 9-11 makes this very
clear.
By trying to denigrate a much
needed spiritual gift like discernment, into something so nasty he uses it like a cuss word (perhaps now he and others like him will just use the phrase "the D word"), labeling it as gossip, intimidation, lies,
slander, bullying, merely shows that he can't stand under the weight of
discernment. Are there people who really do say nasty things? Sure. But so what?
Challies yet again makes sweeping generalizations and lumps all discernment bloggers into
his trash can as worthless and gossiping bullies. A true mature believer won't
keep reading about himself and then write a whole article about how he's a
"victim" of his own public words. One thing I've learned is that when
"famous online Christian experts" get publicly exposed for their
error, their pride comes out in major ways. The non-committed, take-no-sides
men suddenly take a side vehemently and come out slandering others themselves.
God Settled The Matter: there's no room for debating
"When God has spoken, that settles the matter. No room is left for debating or reasoning. It is vain for us to discuss and dispute. Our duty is to submit. The Word itself must regulate our worship and service, as well as everything else. Human opinions, human traditions, custom, convenience, have nothing to do with it. Divine revelation is our only Court of Appeal."
(A.W. Pink - Gleanings In Exodus).
To debate an issue God has already spoken on is to engage the Serpent who says "Hath God said?". We instead are to demolish, utterly destroy all arguments and thoughts that set themselves up against Christ, NOT entertain them as valid or an option!
2Co 10:5 We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ,
1Co 1:18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1Co 1:19 For it is written, "I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE."
1Co 1:20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?
1Co 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
How To Know That You Are Dying Spiritually
2Co 13:5 Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you--unless indeed you fail the test?
Tuesday, April 02, 2013
White Liberals The Worst Racists
Dr. Ben Carson sums it up well:
Dr. Ben Carson on Tuesday blasted his critics for heat he’s taken recently over controversial remarks on gay marriage, calling his white liberal detractors “the most racist out there.”
“They want to shut us up completely, and that’s why the attacks against me have been so vicious,” Carson said on the Mark Levin radio show. “I represent an existential threat to them. They need to shut me up, they need to get rid of me, they can’t find anything else to delegitimize me, so they take my words, misinterpret them, and try to make it seem that I’m a bigot.”
Levin said Carson was being targeted for his race.
~The Hill
Others who have also been in the same position: Larry Elder, Dr. Thomas Sowell, and Dr. Walter Williams.
Dr. Ben Carson on Tuesday blasted his critics for heat he’s taken recently over controversial remarks on gay marriage, calling his white liberal detractors “the most racist out there.”
“They want to shut us up completely, and that’s why the attacks against me have been so vicious,” Carson said on the Mark Levin radio show. “I represent an existential threat to them. They need to shut me up, they need to get rid of me, they can’t find anything else to delegitimize me, so they take my words, misinterpret them, and try to make it seem that I’m a bigot.”
Levin said Carson was being targeted for his race.
“You’re attacked also in many respects because of your race,” Levin said. “You’re not supposed to talk like this, and a lot of white liberals just don’t like it, do they?”
“They’re the most racist people there are because they put you in a little category, a box,” Carson responded. “How could you dare come off the plantation?”
~The Hill
Others who have also been in the same position: Larry Elder, Dr. Thomas Sowell, and Dr. Walter Williams.
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