Wednesday, May 05, 2010

John Piper and Desiring"God": Cussing and the Influence of Others

A man is known by the company he keeps.


Eph 5:3 But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. 4 Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.


Eph 4:29 Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Here's the audio from at a Q&A with Tim Keller, Mark Driscoll, and Justin Taylor 2006 Desiring God conference, where 1/4 the way through Piper uses "smart ***". Justin Taylor apparently made the correct comment that Driscoll was having an influence on Piper and you can hear a nervous laugh.

A year later, we hear more cussing from John Piper in 2007 at the Desiring "God" conference. He says "God kicks our a**" sometimes. This was done at the Passion 07 Conference. Piper's response to himself is here.

It was the following year, 2008, when Desiring I don't know what kind of God conference had Paul Tripp (who used the s*** word himself it on a promo for the DGC video) and also had Mark X-rated Driscoll speak on the topic "The Power of Words And The Wonder of God".

Piper was about 61 when he said this, with about 27 years in the pulpit and he can't figure it out nor have self-control when speaking about God's truth? Truly Mark Driscoll has influenced his mouth and his thinking. By this time (2007) he had been exchanging pulpits with Driscoll for at least 3-4 years.

In all John MacArthur's years, not once has he cussed in the pulpit or in a Q&A. I'm guessing the same can be said for Paul Washer, Spurgeon, and for sure with all the pastors I've sat under for the last 20 years.

Also at Desiring I don't know what kind of God blog: writer Abraham Piper quotes Emergent leader Andrew Jones on "when cussing isn't cussing". Funny, that's Tripp's excuse and why he uses the s* word and by his own admission he got his kids to say it.

Pro 13:20 Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm.

1Co 15:33 Do not be deceived: "Bad company ruins good morals." 34 Wake up from your drunken stupor, as is right, and do not go on sinning. For some have no knowledge of God. I say this to your shame.

3 comments:

terriergal said...

Oh my. Thank you for posting. And for mentioning Abraham Piper. I had a feeling the leadership and the Piper legacy (not just Piper himself) over there is starting to list to one side.

Tragic.

Denise said...

Your very welcome. Red flags are flying, aren't they? We must stay alert, sober minded, and be loyal to Christ at all costs.

terriergal said...

Yes... I am so disturbed to see the elitist circle the wagons mentality developing in otherwise credible ministers of God, like Phil Johnson (so glad I am not the only one to have seen that!)... the Ergun Caner situation and John Ankerberg defending him etc etc...

I posted a bit about Phil on my blog and a facebook post he made making fun of some guy's ugly mug shot, right after he demanded we all respect Piper.