Romans 5 has NOTHING to do with Piper's view. NOTHING. Let's look at Piper, the seasoned pastor, teacher, and Tweeter:
"Muslims, Jews, Christians! Allah and Adonai are only known and loved through the crucified and risen Christ. John 8:19; 5:42-43"
Muslims
Jews
Christians
Allah AND Adonai
can ONLY
be KNOWN
and LOVED
THROUGH
the crucified and risen CHRIST.
Now, looking at it word for word you can see enormous doctrinal error.
Muslims worship Allah, a demon moon god, and think some "good" (5 pillars of Islam, jihad, honor killings) works will get them to "Paradise". They worship (for all intents and purposes) Muhammad. The quran, a demonic book, is nothing but lies.
Jews rely on bloodline and tradition, and rely on other works in addition to these, to save them.
Christians--now BIBLICAL Christians rely solely on the finished work of the risen Lord Jesus Christ, who is God, Creator, Second person in the Trinity, sole Messiah and Master and Owner: THE Way, THE Truth, and THE Life.
I'll state here, knowing Piper's penchant for Roman Catholic authors and practices like Lectio Divina, that Roman Catholics aren't Christians. They too, rely on works and tradition and have a false God altogether.
Jews, Muslims, and Catholics are all equally lost because all three reject the God of Scripture and the sole way of eternal life and forgiveness of sin, which is Jesus Christ and His FINISHED work at the Cross.
By typing "Allah and Adonai", Piper puts Allah, the demon of Islam, on par with Adonai, that is, the HOLY HOLY HOLY One of Israel. Allah is a creation, Jehovah is eternal.
"can only" = no other way
"be known" = to be no stranger to, to be familiar with
"loved" = embraced, have affection for, to be pleased with, have high regard for
"through" = the means of, transmission
"the crucified and risen Christ" = the Jesus of Scripture is the crucified and risen Lord.
So BOTH Allah and Adonai/Jehovah can ONLY be known and loved through Jesus Christ? This statement is blatantly false for two reasons:
We are to love God alone (see Ex. 20).
Allah is a demon who is NOT trinitarian but Adonai is; he is "the greatest of deceivers" according to the quran; the Triune God of Scripture cannot lie, but rather is the God of Truth; he is not holy but Adonai is; he is not immutable, but Adonai is; he has no son, but Adonai does--Jesus Christ (the Trinity cannot be chopped up: One God, three distinct persons in the Godhead, each co-equally God with all the attributes, and all three make the ONE GOD); Allah is not Creator, but Adonai is; Allah commanded Satan to worship Adam but Adonai prohibits all worship of anyone other than HIMSELF.
Allah therefore cannot only NOT be known nor love through Christ, it is Christ Jesus who created Allah (the demon) and it is Christ Jesus who will throw Allah into Lake of Fire to burn for eternity. Allah is not to be "known" but rejected; he is not to be loved (how utterly UNHOLY the "love" Piper portrays, is!) but hated.
Ironically, instead of knowing the demon of Allah and loving him through Christ:
Col 2:15 When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him.
Rom 16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them.
Rom 16:18 For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting.
Rom 16:19 For the report of your obedience has reached to all; therefore I am rejoicing over you, but I want you to be wise in what is good and innocent in what is evil.
Rom 16:20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus be with you.
Piper is not a novice in theology, religion, or Tweeting. He was deliberate and again, defiant, unapologetic and sees himself having to answer to no one who asked perfectly biblical questions for his atrocious claims.
For more info on the name of Allah and how it is NOT the name of the triune God of Scripture go to Let Us Reason.
***Update***
Recently heretic Steve Chalke said this:
“Ultimately the full interpretation of who Allah/God is can be seen through Jesus”.
Pretty much the same thing as false teacher John Piper.
7 comments:
Allah is simply the arabic word for God. Christians in the middle-east call the Christian God "Allah", and christians in South-East asia have had to go to court to keep "Allah" in their bibles. Where you go awry is to assume that "Allah" means "The Islamic concept of God". Clearly Piper does not think that, because that concept does not have any room for a crucified and risen Christ.
Piper has never taught pluralism, and always taught that the only way to God is through the risen Jesus, and it seems clear enough that's what he's doing here, in a style reminiscent of Paul's discourse about "The unknown God" in Acts 17.
In fact, I understood his tweet to point very much to the fact that, as you put it:
Jews, Muslims .. are all equally lost because [they] reject the God of Scripture and the sole way of eternal life and forgiveness of sin, which is Jesus Christ and His FINISHED work at the Cross.
Findo,
You are quite incorrect. Allah is not the name for God, its a personal name of one of Arab's old deities in the pre-Islamic period, which is why Muhammad's father's name was AbduAllah and his uncle's was Obred Allah. When Muhammad wanted to start a new religion, he picked out the best deity among the plethora to be his main god. That was Allah. So "Allah" is a personal name of a pagan deity, not a generic word for "god". That word would be Ilah, which is related to the other Semetic words "Eloh" (Hebrew) and "Elah" (Aramaic).
Allah was never considered the sole deity. He was one among a plethera of pagan Arabic gods, some male, some female.
"The best example to show the usage of ALLAH as personal name is in Islam syahadah or statement of faith "LA ILAH ILL ALLAH" which is translated"no god but Allah". ILAH is the Arabic word for god as demonstrated above." - see:
http://www.matsati.com/islamic-diety.html
Morever, "Allah" never shows up in all of Scripture which not only pre-dates the quran, but is alone the God-breathed Scriptures. The quran is a book of lies and not inspired whatsoever.
Additionally a multitude of historians and experts in Islam and Pre-Islamic culture attest to the fact that "Allah" indeed was PRE-Islamic. I can give you a list should you require it.
And finally consider these Scriptures which are alone God's Word and pre-dates the Johnny-come-lately religion of Islam:
Gen 3:5 "For God [Elohiym] knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
Gen 12:8 Then he proceeded from there to the mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, with Bethel on the west and Ai on the east; and there he built an altar to the LORD and called upon the name of the LORD.
Gen 13:4 to the place of the altar which he had made there formerly; and there Abram called on the name of the LORD.
Gen 14:19 He blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram of God Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth; 20 And blessed be God Most High, Who has delivered your enemies into your hand." He gave him a tenth of all.
Exo 3:13 Then Moses said to God [Elohiym], "Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I will say to them, 'The God [Elohiym] of your fathers has sent me to you.' Now they may say to me, 'What is His name?' What shall I say to them?"
Exo 3:14 God [Elohiym] said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM" [Yahweh]; and He said, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'I AM has sent me to you.'" 15 God, furthermore, said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, 'The LORD [Yahweh], the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' This is My name forever, and this is My memorial-name to all generations.
Consider Piper is wrong, Findo. After all, Piper is participating in the wicked deeds of heretics like Rick Warren, Doug Wilson, and Mark Driscoll, as well as promoting Roman Catholic philosophers and practices. Piper thinks Contemplative spirituality practices also lead to God which is sinful.
Piper is NOT doing what Paul did in Acts 17. On the contrary, Paul was enraged against the idolatry of the Greeks and rightly told them they were lost and did not know God at all. Nor did Paul use one of their gods and said "Let me show you how to get to know him through Jesus". Instead he said, the God you don't know, I will now tell you...and then he goes on starting with God as Creator. Allah is not triune, holy, or immutable. Instead Allah is the "greatest of deceivers", promotes sexual immorality, has no Son. Paul did not stand there and show how the pagans were indeed worshipping the same God. He showed them their utter sin of unbelief which was quite insulting to them. Check this out:
http://surphside.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-to-confront-culture.html
Where MacArthur talks about confronting the culture and addresses your incorrect claim regarding Acts 17.
Findo, Just look at Piper's own words..."Allah AND Adonai are..." The word "and" denotes two separate beings. This is confirmed by the use of the plural verb, "are". Your generic definition of "Allah" would make Piper's tweet meaningless.
Not only is Piper an english speaking preacher, he began the address with "MUSLIMS". He obviously is implying that allah and Adoni are one in the same, which is ironicly the same sort of idea his pal Rick Warren was declaring at the ICNA conference. Having heretics for friends doesnt make you one, per say, but changing the deity of God and spreading those lies to over 250,000 people on twitter, kind of puts you in that camp.
Dont dig yourself a hole unless you plan to stay there.
Ross, I agree, only I believe since John Piper violates 2John 9-11, he is a heretic himself, guilty of the wickedness of the heretics he promotes, if you see what I mean. Moreover, he is teaching Lectio Divina, denies the Genesis account of Creation, etc.
Dear Denise,
For those that still believe that Islam and Christ have any connection I suggest they take a moment and find out where Islam really came from (The Catholic church)
The Islamic Connection (to Rome & Catholicism) FULL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDBRPF9uCYk
(Thank you for your diligence to the scriptures. If you ever get a chance to thumb through Tim Keller's new book on Marriage I'd love to get your take on it... My Church is doing a Sunday night walk through and the book just is all about the world and how to be better humans, not better Christians.)
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