Thursday, May 29, 2014

"Hath God said?" Mark Driscoll Attacks the Omniscience and Impeccability of Jesus Christ

Rom 3:12  All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."
Rom 3:13  "Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive." "The venom of asps is under their lips."
Rom 3:14  "Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness."
Rom 3:15  "Their feet are swift to shed blood;
Rom 3:16  in their paths are ruin and misery,
Rom 3:17  and the way of peace they have not known."
Rom 3:18  "There is no fear of God before their eyes."

What makes the following horrific is that the elders at Mars Hill knew this was going to cause a problem and so they edited it from their online version. As if Driscoll didn't preach against the omniscience, impeccability, and immutablity of Jesus Christ! As if Driscoll didn't treat Jesus Christ with ANY respect whatsoever.

Quote of the transcript (the video is on the same page):

Ok, ready, what I’m going to tell you now might be a heresy. I’m not sure. We’ll see. Ok, um, I’ll just say that, so that if it is, I have an out, ok? So, what I’m going to say now is uh, ok I’ll just say it. Jesus never sinned, will you give me that, He never sinned, true? Good, you’ve been well taught, I think. Ok, so never sinned, never violated any command of the Bible, but question, question, here goes, brain explode, ready? Here we go, is it possible that he made some mistakes?

Did he ever make a mistake? Not a sin, a mistake. Did He ever have to do something twice because he didn’t get it right the first time. When he was learning as a little kid how to write his letters, was it like, ‘I can do this, mom, I made the heavens and the Earth. Watch, I can do cursive too. Or, or, did He have to, ‘ok, this is how you make, oh, ah, ok, I got it right the second time. What do you think? What do you think? It says in Luke that Jesus grew in wisdom and stature and favor with men and God. He grew. What that means is that he had to learn how to do things. You’re going to need to learn how to do things. One of the ways we learn how to do things is we don’t get it right the first time. We fail. So then we learn from it and we figure out how to do it, that’s how we do things, right? Some of you are paralyzed by religious perfectionism. I need to get it all right, I need to get it all right the first time. You’re not Jesus. And you know what? Jesus may have learn how to do things by figuring it out, maybe not always getting it 100% right the first time.

Let me be careful with this. It’s not immoral. It’s not sinful. It’s not ungodly. It’s part of your humanity. You don’t need to repent of being human. You need to give yourself a little grace and be human.


Sounds like his "Jesus" is that of Kenneth Copeland's god who "is the greatest failure in all of Scripture". How he can compare Jesus who never ceased to be God EVER (He is immutable according to Phil. 2 for example) to us is incomprehensible. Moreover, it wasn't just learning to do a physical thing like riding a bike (seriously? that's what he brings in to contextualize Christ??), but Driscoll went on to include "religious perfectionism". So he's saying in both, we can fail and not be held accountable for our sin---but worse, Jesus had to learn that too!

Folks this junk from Driscoll is not only heretical, it is absolute hatred of that which is pure: the Word and the Author of the Word and of our faith. It is treating with disrespect, irreverence, that which is HOLY HOLY HOLY and then walking around in arrogance and pride--daring anyone to reject him for teaching such blasphemy.

But back in 2008 I reported on Driscoll's unholy view of Jesus Christ even then:


Erick Raymond lists some of the more offensive Driscoll quotes in his review:

For example, Driscoll, in his run through The Gospel According to Mark, describes Jesus as a guy who,

“[tells] a leper to shut-up

“does the equivalent of breaking into a church on a Sunday morning to make a sandwich with the communion bread..”

needs Paxil

needs sensitivity training

has his guys take a donkey without asking like some kleptomaniac donkeylifter

“[Is] an obvious workaholic who needed to start drinking decaf and listening to taped sounds of running water while doing aromatherapy so he could learn to relax.”

Sounds more like Kenneth Copeland's view of God--the irreverence is alarming. Criticism is reserved for Copeland who says that Jesus had taken on a sin nature and be born again in hell, but what Driscoll says is just as atrocious. Guess Driscoll gets a free pass because he mouths "TULIP" or "Reformed"? This is absolutely HORRIBLE!

More quotes from Driscoll:

“Jesus’ mom was a poor, unwed teenage girl who was mocked for claiming she conceived via the Holy Spirit. Most people thought she concocted a crazy story to cover the ‘fact’ she was knocking boots with some guy in the backseat of a car at the prom.” (p.11)

Jesus’ humor was often biting and harsh, particularly when directed at the Pharisees. For example, he called them a bag of snakes, said that their moms shagged the Devil, and mocked them for tithing out of their spice racks.” (pp. 40-41)

Joining them later at the party at Matthew’s house was nothing short of a very bad hip-hop video, complete with women in clear heels, dudes with their pants around their ankles and handguns in their underwear strap, lots of gold teeth, bling, spinners on camels, cheap liquor, and grinding to really loud music with a lot of bass. When word got out to the religious folks, they were perplexed as to how Jesus could roll with such a jacked-up posse. Jesus’ answer was purely priestly. Jesus said that they were sick and needed mercy.” (p.77)

“Some Catholic theologians taught that Jesus was not born in the normal fashion through Mary’s birth canal. Rather, they say he was born via something much like a miraculous C-section, as if Mary were some Messiah-in-the-box, and Joseph cranked her arm until the Messiah popped out of her gut.” (p. 93)

"On the cross as our substitute, Jesus was made to be the worst of what we are. This does not mean that Jesus ever sinned. Rather, it means that he was made sin. As a result, in that moment when Jesus cried out that he had been forsaken by God the Father, Jesus became the most ugly, wicked, defiled, evil, corrupt, rebellious, and hideous thing in all creation. In that moment, Jesus became a homosexual, alcoholic, thief, glutton, addict, pervert, adulterer, coveter, idol worshiper, whore, pedophile, self-righteous religious prig—and whatever else we are.” (p. 114)

End quote.

Clearly Driscoll has no fear of the HOLY HOLY HOLY God of Israel nor does he have a love for the Truth and so be saved (2Thes. 2). Rather he deceives with a tongue that is full of death and wickedness. Nothing is pure to him; he violates all that is pure.

Heb. 13:8 Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. He is immutable. What is true of Jesus before is true of Him now.

John 5:19  So Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of His own accord, but ONLY WHAT He sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, that the Son does likewise. 

Heb 1:3  He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 

Php 2:6  who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

The apostle Paul stated the same truth, saying that Christ “existed in the form of God” (Phil. 2:6). The Greek word translated “existed” (huparcho) is not the common verb for “being” (eimi). Huparcho stresses the essence of a person’s nature—his continuous state or condition. It expresses what one is, unalterably and inalienably, by nature. Paul’s point was that Jesus Christ is unalterably and continuously existing in the form of God.

Clarifying the meaning of the Greek word translated “form” (morphe) is crucial to a proper understanding of this verse. According to respected Greek scholars Moulton and Milligan, morphe “always signifies a form which truly and fully expresses the being which underlies it.” The word describes essential being or nature—in this case the essential being of God.

In using the word morphe in Philippians 2, Paul was saying Jesus possessed the unchangeable, essential nature of God. That interpretation of the first phrase of verse 6 is strengthened by the second phrase, which says Jesus was equal with God. Being in the form of God speaks of Christ’s equality with God.

~JM Strength for Today, 12/2/13

1Co 4:6  I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. 

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