Wednesday, November 07, 2007

"Evangelical Leaders" Fear A Woman Rather Than God

Pro 29:25 The fear of man lays a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is safe.

Fear God
Vote Biblically
Don't Compromise ©

This is the window sticker I created for my car and it is a good guide for how I need to vote in elections. It was born out of a need to voice the true issues in voting in our country.

Its something that "evangelical leaders" would learn from. Instead these guys, along with their followers, are man-centered pragmatists, and have sold their "principles" for a Republican victory.

Allow me to explain.

Arnold Schwarzenegger

When Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for governor of California, I look on his website and found he was pro-abortion and pro-homosexual rights. I warned as many Christians as I could, especially at my church, about his positions and challenged them with this:

"Are you a conservative because you say you are or because you really are by voting accordingly?"

The resounding fear was that the leading Democrat, Carlos Bustamonte, would beat the Republicans and the "only one who could win" was Arnold Schwarzenegger .

It wasn't a matter of weeks before I got the first email of how the GOP would have to deal with Arnold's abortion stand. Hello? YOU voted him in! Now you want to deal with his position that you KNEW was adamently opposed to the GOP's platform?

Now the Republican Conservatives / so-called-Christians are whining about the laws he's passing that allow boys to use the girls' restrooms, as well as banning the use of "mom and dad" and "husband and wife" from California school textbooks because its discriminatory against sodomite couples.

This was the fear of man. They feared a Democrat and gave up on the very principles (not even truly principles, since they are cast aside as optional) that defined them as Republican, Conservative, and Christian. They voted pragmatically, not biblically. They compromised.

I have said for three years now, that what happened in California would go national.

It has.

Pat Robertson

Pat Robertson, the face of "conservative Evangelical Christianity" has now endorsed Rudy Giuliani. Why? Because Giuliani is "fiscally conservative" and also is good on the war.

How about morals, Pat? Is Rudy conservative morally?

Rudy Giuliani is an adulterer, home-wrecker, liar, pro-abortionist. He's been married repeatedly and his current wife was his mistress. He lied to his wife, to his children, and to the public as he kept this dirty secret, until it came out in the open and he had to admit it. Adulterers are good liars usually. So are politicians.

Giuliani is also pro-abortion and pro-sodomite rights. His record and his own words prove this. The Christian Coalition is against abortion and sodomite rights.

"Ultimately, a woman should make that with her conscience and ultimately with her doctor. "
Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate Aug 5, 2007

Federal tax returns show that he and his then-wife, Donna Hanover, made personal donations to national, state and city chapters of Planned Parenthood totaling $900 in 1993, 1994, 1998 and 1999. The returns have been on the public record for years, but the detail about Giuliani's support for Planned Parenthood was provided to The Politico by aides to a rival campaign, who insisted on not being identified. -Source: Jonathan Martin on May 7, 2007

To the question:

Q: Would the day that Roe v. Wade is repealed be a good day for America?

ROMNEY: Absolutely.
BROWNBACK: It would be a glorious day of human liberty and freedom.
GILMORE: Yes, it was wrongly decided.
HUCKABEE: Most certainly.
McCAIN: A repeal.
GIULIANI: It would be OK to repeal. It would be OK also if a strict constructionist judge viewed it as precedent and I think a judge has to make that decision.

Q: So it would be OK if they didn't repeal it?

GIULIANI: I think the court has to make that decision and then the country can deal with it. We're a federalist system of government and states can make their own decisions.
TANCREDO: After 40 million dead because we have aborted them in this country, I would say that that would be the greatest day in this country's history when that, in fact, is overturned.

Pat Robertson of the Christian Coaltion wants that kind of man to be president?

I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source:, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999

GIULIANI: The reality is that I support the Second Amendment. I clearly believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman, although I did support domestic partnerships and still do, a contractual relationship. And [we should] put our emphasis on reducing abortions & increasing the number of adoptions. - Source: 2007 GOP Iowa Straw Poll debate Aug 5, 2007

National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, Mayor Giuliani said yesterday. "I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said. The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples. "I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country." Source: New York Daily News, reprinted in 3/25/05 NY Observer May 13, 1998

So why is Roberston such a hypocrit? Because he fears man (or in this case a woman) rather that God.

A false teacher and prophet, such as Pat Robertson is, wouldn't fear God anyway. He's a mere pragmatist who thinks he's something when he's nothing. He doesn't know God, His Word, and certainly has no biblical values. Values are what we hold to in the MIDST of conflict and trials and hazy situations. For the Christian, our values better be directly from Scripture or they're just mere opinion and will change at any time. Like Robertson. Seems to me his views are mere opinion because he dumped them when he feared a woman rather than the One who can destroy both his body and soul in hell.

Bob Jones III

According to Greenville Online (and AP):

Dr. Bob Jones III, chancellor of the fundamentalist Christian university that bears his name, is looking past his religious differences with Gov. Mitt Romney and endorsing the Mormon for the Republican nomination for president, he told The Greenville News today.

"This is all about beating Hillary," Jones said. "And I just believe that this man has the credentials both personally and ideologically in terms of his view about what American government should be to best represent the rank and file of conservative Americans.
"If it turns out to be Guiliani and Hillary, we�ve got two pro- choice candidates, and that would be a disaster."

Wow. A "conservative Christian" is supporting (pushing) for a future Mormon god to be presiden! Why? Well, he says why: he fears a woman.

So what makes Jones conservative or Christian? You got me.

But he's fearing man, not voting biblically (see Romney's record here on abortion and sodomite rights here), and compromising what defines a person as Republican, Conservative, and Christian.

John Hagee

John Hagee proclaimed recently on Glen Beck's CNN show that he too, along with 11 other men in leadership at his church, would vote for a future Mormon god if it was between Romney and Hillary:

BECK: We`re back with Pastor John Hagee, author of "In Defense of Israel." When we went to the break, I gave you a second to think about it. Would you vote for a Mormon?

HAGEE: I asked that exact question to the 12 leaders of my church at the Christmas banquet last year. I said, if it comes down to a Mormon presidential candidate, would you vote for that one, or would you not vote for him because it was Hillary Clinton or someone else? Eleven out of 12 said, "We`ll vote for the Mormon."

BECK: Were you the one?

HAGEE: No, it was not me. I said, I would vote for him, because I know him to be moral, I know him to have high principles, I know him to believe in a work ethic, I know that he has a family orientation that`s very devout, and very pure, and that is basically the social problem that`s destroying the fabric of this country right now. The family is coming unraveled.

End quote.

Clearly Hagee's looking at moral issues here (Pat Robertson does not). However the problem is that Romney isn't that morally upstanding: he's a cult member (of LDS) that lies about Jesus Christ and God's Word, he's protected abortion while in office and he's for benefits of sodomite couples.

"As governor, I indicated that I would not change the law as it related to abortion. I would keep it the same."

"I've always been personally pro-life, but for me, it was a great question about whether or not government should intrude in that decision. And when I ran for office, I said I'd protect the law as it was, which is effectively a pro-choice position." -Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007

"In New Hampshire on Thursday, he deflected conservative concerns about his record on gay marriage and abortion. He said he now describes himself as "firmly pro-life," despite citing his tolerance for abortion rights during his 2002 gubernatorial campaign, after researching the embryonic stem cell issue." --Source:, "Inside Politics" Dec 22, 2006

Romney endorsed legalization of RU-486, the abortion-inducing drug.--Source: Boston Globe review of 1994 canpaign issues Mar 21, 2002

"When I ran for the first time, I said I was personally pro-life but that I would protect a woman's right to choose as the law existed. Two years ago, as a result of the debate we had, the conclusion I reached was that cloning and creating new embryos was wrong, and that we should, therefore, allow our state to become a pro-life state. I believe states should have the right to make this decision, and that's a position I indicated in an op-ed in the Boston Globe 2 years ago." --Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007

So as a Mormon purportedly high up in his church, he was pro-abortion until he saw where the opinion polls were going in 2005 and suddenly switched? This was not part of his "values" at all. He was against pro-live before he was for it? Man, where have I heard that before? Voting pro-abortion but being pro-life. What makes a person pro-life if they vote against it? Because they say they are?

Do you see the problem here?

Three "conservative Christians" are not truly conservative and only one who I consider might be a believer is Bob Jones, but I'll wait and see. The other two are heretics and false prophets/teachers (Hagee has recently said that Jesus did not come to be Messiah; he also doesn't believe the Jews need the Gospel of Jesus Christ; and also promotes heretical teachers of the Word of Faith movement). But certainly these men are NOT conservative. They are pragmatists who fear man (a woman this time) rather than God.

I saw this coming when Arnold Schwarzenegger ran for governor. Its now gone national, this compromising and fear.

Fear God, not man.
Vote biblically, not pragmatically.
Don't compromise.

I'll stand by this. We MUST be like Daniel who did not fear man (the kings) and live pragmatically. He could've bowed to the statue in order to keep his job so he could "have more influence over the nation", but he didn't. He served and feared God, trusting Him to take care of whatever happened to his life or job. And it was his very life at stake...not just a mere job. He stood prepared to loose his life for not obeying the king's order to bow to the golden statue. Because Daniel was faithful to the Lord openly and in secret (he kept praying three times a day with his window open), God blessed him in many great ways.

Let us be like Daniel.

Fear God.
Vote biblically.
Don't compromise. ©

Jer 17:5 Thus says the LORD: "Cursed is the man who trusts in man and makes flesh his strength, whose heart turns away from the LORD.

UPDATE: Now Mitt Romney has found support with Moral Majority co-founder Paul Weyrich. Wow, holding hands with cultists....just absolutely amazes me. Next thing we'll see are "Christians" holding hands with Muslim candidates. Oh wait, that's already happening.


Prodigal Knot said...

I admit I haven't been following this closely and I appreciate the information. I've been beseiged by RNC people asking me to donate to the Republican party. I keep telling them I'll wait and see who they end up nominating before they get any money from me. I've been very disappointed with the RNC for the last 4 years and they had better come up with someone I can vote for. I agree with your opinion that we must vote for the man who most closely represents what we hold true and valuable based on what God desires.


Denise said...

Yes I agree. I finally "turned in my badge" to GOP and opted out of declaring any party. More and more GOP leaders want to be inclusive wiith liberals (like homosexuals, pro-abortion folks, etc) which is not in line with the party platform.

I have a sneaking suspicion that I'll end up just voting on issues and not a presidential candidate this coming election. Or maybe I'll write in someone's name. ; )

Thanks for coming by, nw.