Saturday, February 05, 2011

Tony Jones: "Has God said?" Scripture Says:Yes He Has!

This is a perfect example of why mimmicking the Serpent is wrong--that is to say, considering viewpoints as possibly vaid when the fly in the face of Scripture:

Tony Jones error :

"As with other theological issues I’ve addressed here — the atonement and same sex marriage, to name a couple — I don’t come in with my mind made up, although I am leaning toward it. Nor have I spent any time reading or really even thinking about it. But I do think that it’s important and deserving of ongoing consideration and theological reflection.

What I don’t think is very interesting to pursue is whether some individuals are submitted to eternal torment by God. If you think that, then you interpret the Bible very differently than I do and we probably disagree on just about everything."

Marriage:

Genesis 2 is the overall view of marriage--between one man and one woman. Elsewhere it is reiterated.

Homosexuality:

1Ti 1:10 the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,

1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

Rom 1:26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;
Rom 1:27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Rom 1:28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
Rom 1:29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
Rom 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.

The Atonement is both in the OT (Ex. 29-30) and New Testament:

Isa 53:4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed.
Isa 53:6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the LORD has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him.

Mat 26:2 "You know that after two days the Passover is coming, and the Son of Man is to be handed over for crucifixion." (see the Gospels for the Crucifixion account).

Rom 3:25 whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed;

Eph 1:7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of His grace

Heb 9:22 And according to the Law, one may almost say, all things are cleansed with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. (see the whole chapter)

Eternal Torment:

Isa 66:24 "And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh."

2 Thes. 1: 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


Jones said, What I don’t think is very interesting to pursue is whether some individuals are submitted to eternal torment by God. If you think that, then you interpret the Bible very differently than I do and we probably disagree on just about everything." Absolutely. That's HUGE understatement. Jones, you deny the very God and Gospel of Scripture--there is no "probably" about how far apart us Biblical Christians are from you. We're Grand Canyons apart from each other: you are in darkness, I am in the Light.; you sit in the seat of scoffers, I believe what Scripture states.

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