Thursday, July 18, 2013

Larry Elder Takes On Socialist Piers Morgan On CNN

Newsbusters reported that Piers Morgan got into a heated debate with radio talk show host and author Larry Elder

Here are excerpts from the exchange:

MORGAN: You've been pretty scathing about my interview with Rachel Jeantel. Why? 

ELDER: I was because you weren't doing her any favors by condescendingly trying to convince her that she's a victim. This is a young lady who didn't apply herself, a 19-year-old who is still in high school. Instead of saying young lady, take this as an opportunity to take stock of your life. You're treating her like she was a victim. 

And that's how you're doing this whole thing about race and racism. Seven thousand murders last year, Piers, of black people, almost all of those were committed by black people. Since Trayvon Martin had his unfortunate death there have been 480 blacks killed in Chicago alone, 75 percent of those crimes have been unsolved. Where are the cameras? Where are the shows? It's outrageous to act as if -- 

MORGAN: Well, hang on. 

ELDER: -- Black America -- 

MORGAN: OK. Larry -- 

ELDER: Black America should fear some non-black guy stalking some black kid at night. The likelihood of a black person being killed by a non-black person is extremely remote which is why this is became a big national issue in the first place, Piers. 

MORGAN: Right. It's perfectly possible, as we have shown on this show many times, to be justice exercised by what is happening in Chicago which is an absolute national disgrace to America, frankly in terms of the outlandish gun -- 
ELDER: But you're not -- but you're not, Piers. 

MORGAN: But I am, actually. 


ELDER: There are 7,000 murders last year. 

MORGAN: I don't think you've watched my show, Larry. 

ELDER: Wait a minute. Half of -- 

MORGAN: I don't think you watch my show. 

ELDER: Half of the murders in this country are commented by black people, even though black people are 12 percent of the population which means 6 percent of the population committing almost half the murders. And you throw out the old people and the young people, Piers, you're talking about 3 percent of the population committing almost 50 percent of the murders -- 

You can begin to see why the liberal racists were up in arms over his comments; these are things most people both in the Black community and government schools haven't heard because of the innate liberalism and racism going the other direction. Its about time someone stood up to the socialist Morgan and tell him his liberal worldview is making things worse, not bettter. 

Here are more excerpts, but you can watch the video or read the entire transcript at the links.


ELDER: You're a liberal guy, bleeding heart liberal person. You think you're doing something for black people. You're not. You're making black people feel as if they're under siege. It is not true. It's an outrage. 

MORGAN: Let's get back to my interview with Rachel Jeantel because you tweeted some ridiculous things. You tweeted at one stage, would I like Rachel Jeantel to fly my plane? Why would you say that? 

ELDER: I'll tell you why I said that, Piers. I'll tell you why I said that because after you interviewed her you condescendingly went on television the next morning and called her one smart cookie. Bull. Why don't you hire her as a nanny? Let's see how smart she is. It's a condescending kind of thing that a lot of white people say -- 

MORGAN: Do you think she's stupid, Larry? 

ELDER: -- to black people. I think you're stupid for saying that kind of thing to try to get black people against -- 

ELDER: Race and racism is the -


MORGAN: Do you think Rachel Jeantel -- 

ELDER: When it doesn't. 

MORGAN: Do you think she's stupid, Larry? 

ELDER: Racism is not a major problem in America anymore, Piers. Racism is not a major problem in America anymore. The number one problem facing black people are the large number of black people born outside of wedlock, 75 percent. In 1960, 5 percent of all people in this country were born outside of wedlock. Fast forward, Piers, the number now is 43 percent. 

You look at that for crime, dropouts, all that kind of stuff, it's connected. The other big problem facing black America, Piers, is the economy. One in two black men does not have a job and one of the heads of the commercial black caucus once said if a white person were in the White House we would be marching on the place because of the high unemployment, but we're talking about Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman as if it's the number one problem facing black America? It is a remotely on the top 10 list, Piers. 

ELDER: You treated George Zimmerman like he's some sort of criminal. He's not a criminal. He's a guy who cares about his neighborhood. 

MORGAN: George Zimmerman shot dead an unarmed teenager. 

ELDER: He's a guy who cares about his neighborhood. He's a neighborhood watch guy. Don't you want people to be proactive and there was crime in that neighborhood, Piers. I live in South Central -- 

MORGAN: There wasn't crime from -- there wasn't crime from Trayvon Martin in that neighborhood. 

ELDER: The burglar bars are not on there -- the burglar bars are not on there because of George Zimmerman. They're on there because of the enormity of thugs in the community that's messing up everybody's image and reputation. This is why people profile. Instead of being angry at George Zimmerman, be angry at the minority. 

MORGAN: Right. 

ELDER: And the thugs who's committing these crimes a crime. 

ELDER: It was an unfortunate incident. Two people have preconceived notions about each other. It never should have happened. It doesn't make George Zimmerman a criminal. I used to work in the D.A.'s office, Piers. I'm telling you it was a dog case, a reasonable doubt case. Nobody I know would have filed the case. 
MORGAN: I think it's completely wrong that George Zimmerman should get no punish at all for killing an unarmed teenager. 

ELDER: He's got serious punishment -- he can't go anywhere. 

MORGAN: If I can, though -- 

ELDER: Are you kidding me? He's a marked man. He's going to be sued civilly. He will never have a moment of peace. He killed somebody. Morally he's got to deal with that, Piers. He recognizes that. He's not -- 

MORGAN: Well -- 

ELDER: He's not a thief. He recognizes what he did. 
ELDER: Wouldn't it be nice to have a George Zimmerman in Cleveland and maybe Ariel Castro -- 

MORGAN: I don't want George Zimmerman doing my neighborhood watch patrol, no, I don't. I don't. I've got three teenage sons, Larry. I don't feel comfortable having somebody like George Zimmerman marching around as some wannabe vigilante armed with a gun -

ELDER: No, you live in a -- you live in a wealthy area, a gated community. 

MORGAN: Potentially killing my kids as they come home from a store with a bag of Skittles and a can of soda, no. I don't. I don't feel comfortable. 

ELDER: You live in a wealthy neighborhood, a gated community, plenty of security, you don't have to worry about that. Live in South Central. Come down to South Central sometime. See what's going on down there. They're not worried about George Zimmerman, they're not worried about Mark Thurman (ph), they're worrying about the thug down the street coming from a single parent household and that situation had been created by the left-wing people like you who feel sorry for people and therefore you want government to take care of them. 

You think government is the way to help in prosperity. Go to an Indian reservation sometimes and see how they live. 

ELDER: It's a very offensive thing if you recommend the wrong things to do, Piers. 

MORGAN: Larry, let me speak. Larry. 

ELDER: If you tell people, I feel sorry for you. 

ELDER: This person is a bigot. This person shouldn't have cross- examined you the way he did. Then all you're doing is creating a victim. You're telling Rachel Jeantel that she shouldn't have to work hard, she shouldn't have to work on her diction, she shouldn't have to improve her grammar, just have her wave the flag of victimhood and she'll be perfectly OK. It is an outrage that the left has done to black people and you are part of this parade. 

MORGAN: Thank you, Larry. Just out of interest, how many languages do you speak? 

ELDER: I don't speak Ebonics as well as Rachel, if that's what you mean. 

MORGAN: No, how many languages do you speak, was the question. 

ELDER: And the relevance of that is what? 

MORGAN: You don't think she's a smart cookie. She speaks three languages fluently, how many do you speak? 

ELDER: Oh, really? You think she's a smart cookie. 


ELDER: So you want to bring it back to Rachel. That's not what we're talking about here. 

MORGAN: I think you're being -- I want to bring it back to Rachel because she was why I booked you, Larry. 

ELDER: How you treated black people like children to whom the truth cannot be told. Rachel Jeantel needs to get her act together. If my mother were alive she would say, how dare she speak like that? 

ELDER: Once again, I never used the word stupid. You did. She was the most important witness in a murder trial. It was -- she was standing between George Zimmerman and 30 years in jail and for you to act as if she was somehow abused by Don West whose job was to make sure his client didn't go to jail is outrageous. 

And as far as education is concerned, I applaud Mr. Joyner. He's done a lot of work in the black community for education. And I would recommend, Piers, that we do something about the 50 percent dropout rate in the inner city and about the fact that President Obama opposes allowing parents to use vouchers to get their kids out of bad government schools and into a better school so they can have a possibility to get to the middle class. 

That's what we've got to be talking about here instead of some abhorrent situation like George Zimmerman going to somebody that he thinks is suspicious and they have an exchange and there's an unfortunate death as if somehow that some sort of indictment of America and black people should look over their shoulders every night and act as if some white guy is going to jump out of a bush and get them. 

It is outrageous. Hard work wins. Get an education. Don't pay attention to the negative people and stay focused and you'll be OK in America. That's why most of the people in the world want to come here. That's why you want to come here, Piers. 

MORGAN: Thank you, Larry Elder. 

ELDER: Welcome. 

End quotes. 

~CNN, typos are original

Apparently some women tweeted about this exchange, and here's what Elder responded with:

For the ladies who hated "my tone". Be advised that pre show, @piersmorgan called me a "coward", said I lacked "the balls" to confront him.

Additionally, Larry Elder tweeted some more information following his appearance on CNN (this might address anyone who's bothered by the quotes I've posted so far in this article):

Hey @singlegirlguide: "Any black man [who says] there's no racism is a f--g idiot". In 4 books, 1,000 articles, where did I say "no racism"?

How does saying "racism is no longer a major problem" in U.S., get translated into "Elder doesn't think racism exits"? Do I need sub-titles?

Time/CNN poll (1998): 89% of black teens call "racism in their own lives" a small problem" or "not a problem at all."

Time/CNN poll (1998): 89% of black teens call "racism in their own lives" a small problem" or "not a problem at all."


The reaction to that heated debate between Elder and Morgan, as  with the Zimmerman verdict, show the racism and intolerance of the liberals. I'd post some of the tweets but frankly the language is so foul and racist, I can't.  Go here for examples.

Elder challenged the typical liberal worldview with facts and challenged Morgan's own liberal blathering against a country he's become wealthy in and internationally famous (infamous, really). 

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